thread review - canreef staff please read

[sphelps]

I don't know exactly what the whole story is here or even what the topic is but I'll say this,
I believe the mods on this site do a pretty good job, and the site is run well. I don't agree with everything done but that's life, a small group of people will never be able to satisfy everyone else in the world. Just like government which most people rarely have anything good to say about. So first off good job guys, we all deserve a little ego stroke once in a while

The bottom line is the Mods run the site, they can do what they choice and will continue to do so if they believe it's what is best for the site. Do they owe explanations, well not really that's their decision but with every decision comes consequences. So mods don't get so uptight when people question your actions if you choice to go this route, this is a natural response.

Its the underlying tone that certainly makes me wonder why I continue here.

*sigh*

And it makes me wonder why I continue to do this.

A couple from this thread alone

[Aquattro]

Well ,I never question why I'm here, and I certainly attempt to explain things thoroughly the FIRST time, but for people that keep whining about the same topic, after getting my nice answer, get the revised short abrubt answer.
We do make choices, we work within our given time on the board, and sometimes it's just not practical to offer an explanation for our actions. and trust me, it's a rare occasion when I notify the poster of a removed thread, where they just say ok, thanks for letting me know. More often than not, we get, well, you suck. It's a free country. I think I should be able to say what I want. It goes on and on. And seriously, I don't feel like spending my free time arguing about a point that isn't going to change. I had to argue with one person for weeks because he didn't like the rules, or my decision to enforce said rules. It's really sad sometimes. And yes, lots of qualified people could do this. You could do this. And 5 years from now, your posts would sound exactly like mine. Honest. Like I said, we don't just roll dice. We discuss, at length, most decisions that we make on the board. It's not the thankless job it's made out to be, it's mostly fun, we have a great time, and we've all met a lot of good friends doing this. Sure, some people get personal, not sure why, it's just an internet board. I know of some people here that just hate my guts, and have never even met me. Seriously, lighten up. We're all here for a common purpose, and the role the staff play is to make sure we stay on course for that purpose, and attempt to create an environment enjoyable to the majority of the members. Unfortunately some toes may get stepped on along the way, but that's the nature of the beast.
K, gotta go work for a living now...

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

No, your tone IS belittling and insulting. It's no wonder you've been asked to leave other boards. Don't think it can't happen here either. Take your beef to PM's, continue along this line of public whining, and I guarantee the outcome will not be the one you wish for. This is just some friendly advice back to you, not an insult.

Read tone how you want, but coming back with a low blow which you know nothing about is pathetic. At one point I was part owner and a sponsor of that ONE site which I left by choice for good reason as I didn't want to support the things that were occurring behind the scenes anymore.

I was sticking up for the mods, if you'd only read what I said you'd know that rather than reading between the lines finding tone that doesn't exist and then threatening me. Real nice, is this the essence of Canreef?

[wickedfrags]

This discussion shall now be limited to PM. Does not belong in a wickedfrags therad. I think you can both agree on that...

The new thread to discuss the real topic, well that will be up shorly. Thanks.

Originally Posted by sphelps

Read tone how you want, but coming back with a low blow which you know nothing about is pathetic. At one point I was part owner and a sponsor of that ONE site which I left by choice for good reason as I didn't want to support the things that were occurring behind the scenes anymore.

I was sticking up for the mods, if you'd only read what I said you'd know that rather than reading between the lines finding tone that doesn't exist and then threatening me. Real nice, is this the essence of Canreef?

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by wickedfrags.com

This discussion shall now be limited to PM. Does not belong in a wickedfrags therad. I think you can both agree on that...

The new thread to discuss the real topic, well that will be up shorly. Thanks.

My apologies Dave. I didn't realize this was in your forum until now. I thought it was just a thread discussing moderation, which to be fair sounds about right.

[Gooly001]

Dave,

I've just visited your website and it seems that you have a lot of nice corals. Not to accuse you of anything but in order for me to feel comfortable doing business with you; could you please verify for me that these corals were imported legally from yourself or your supplier?

Thank you.

[wickedfrags]

Hey RAD. Thanks and I agree some nice pieces there for sure.

For those who may not be aware, I have a full-time job and am not a store front, I generally just sell frags as I grow them out. I do not import corals from suppliers (don't have the time, money or space) so I do not deal with CITES permits. The corals I sell have been already landed in Canada so they have gone though that process with the LFS.

Come shipment day here in Toronto, well I am standing in line at the LFS with everyone else! Dave

Originally Posted by R.A.D.

Dave,

I've just visited your website and it seems that you have a lot of nice corals. Not to accuse you of anything but in order for me to feel comfortable doing business with you; could you please verify for me that these corals were imported legally from yourself or your supplier?

Thank you.

[wickedfrags]

No worries - and ya, I started a new thread in my forum to continue a discussion I though was important (ya kinda a trouble-maker myself!). Thanks. Dave

Originally Posted by sphelps

My apologies Dave. I didn't realize this was in your forum until now. I thought it was just a thread discussing moderation, which to be fair sounds about right.

[Pazil]

Well what happened to taking this stuff to PM's... I for one (and will only speak for myself) have found this site (and the mods) to be a great resource for information and support. I would really like to see this conversation continue (with regards to the corals not the mods). If there is still a need to debate the moderator actions, opinions or otherwise can you take THAT elsewhere so the rest of us can continue to learn and discuss what is affecting our hobby.

[wickedfrags]

Bending stupid rules in your personal life is one thing, bending such rules at work or in a business environment is another story though!

Originally Posted by Reefer Rob

I agree with the mislabeling thing of course, but bending senseless stupid rules is on of my hobbies.

I agree with you, the discussion of mods and staff if for PMs. The new thread regarding corals will be up after lunch and will stay on topic - I will take the time to ensure this happens (it will be in my forum.

Pleased to hear you find the site a great resource and support, it's a big part of the site! Cheers.

Originally Posted by Pazil

Well what happened to taking this stuff to PM's... I for one (and will only speak for myself) have found this site (and the mods) to be a great resource for information and support. I would really like to see this conversation continue (with regards to the corals not the mods). If there is still a need to debate the moderator actions, opinions or otherwise can you take THAT elsewhere so the rest of us can continue to learn and discuss what is affecting our hobby.