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05-08-2009, 03:51 AM
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I very often see them at a few LFS...
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05-08-2009, 04:18 AM
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Loser LFS import them, knowing they are almost impossible to keep and sell them to unsuspecting newbies.
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05-08-2009, 04:41 AM
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I don't really think I am in any position to tell a store what to stock or not to stock. I don't think what I said would matter, as the fish are there on special order... When I have mentioned the MI I am quickly told they are hard to keep and they don't usually live. I don't think a store would bring them in without special order due to low survival rates and they do not want to lose money themselves. However, what do I know?
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05-08-2009, 05:27 AM
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I agree with you.
If an experienced reefer wants to order a Moorish Idol, I have no problem with a LFS special order bringing one in. I have a big problem with loser LFS stocking Moorish Idol and selling them to unsuspecting newbies, though
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05-08-2009, 06:01 AM
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I've had my moorish idol for about 7 months, mine also eats SPS polyps, zoanthids, cespitularia, but doesnt eat LPS or gorg's yet. I've been buying zoanthid colonies to feed mine as well as culturing sponge in my sump. From what I read sponge is an important part of their diet. Mine also eats pellets, mysis, and nori. He quite thick now, probably around 5".
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05-08-2009, 06:36 AM
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some fish are better left in the ocean. This fish is at the top of that list
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05-08-2009, 06:51 AM
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I had my Moorish idol for over a year before I sold the tank, eating nothing but standard frozen foods. I believe the idols from Hawaii are suppose to be much better in captivity than those from other places like Indo.
I've also had a variety of sps picking fish, the only time you run into major problems is when they target a single colony as appose to spreading it out, which will likely happen once or twice. If you'll be devastated with a loss or two best to save yourself the grief and give it up or make a new home for him
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05-08-2009, 07:23 PM
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True enough but this person is an experienced reefer and has had great success with his fish. Plus this thread is not about red list fish... he is wondering if it is normal for his MI to nip at corals. Many people are hesitant to post about certain species of fish due to the controversy attached to keeping them. How do we learn from others when they do not want to post their experiences? How do we learn the actually survival rates and success rates if people do not post?
Perhaps some people are lucky, or perhaps they are doing something they do not even have a clue they are doing to keep certain species long term. I think the posts about certain species and how they are kept may just help us narrow down a missing link Maybe fish that do nip corals are seeking certain nutrients they are not getting in prepared diets in general. I know people take coral calcium as a supplement and perhaps these fish are looking for such things in their own diets. Most animals will eat things they normally do not eat, if they are lacking key nutrients... My Regal angel eats anything I throw into the tank at feeding time, but still will nip corals, zoas, my pipe organ and many other things I wish he would not eat. However, he is FAT and healthy so it is a small price to pay in order to keep a red list fish thriving within my display. He does not do enough damage to kill anything so far. If he does, too bad for me, sicne his health and welfare is first and foremost. Quote:
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05-08-2009, 04:12 PM
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I personally have never seen one up for sale. They are always sold and I am always told they hardly ever make it... They are beautiful, but even that is not quite enough for me to chance ordering one. If fish are in stock, it is one thing to try, but to have one pulled from the ocean on my behalf is not right for me to do. Even if they are in stock, I would have to do miles of research, which I did do for my Regal angel whom is happy and healthy.
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05-08-2009, 05:33 PM
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Just so you all know, this was not an impulse buy for us either. We know the history of this fish and that they are supposed to be really hard to keep. There is an LFS that stocks these fish on a somewhat regular basis and before we bought it, we had a good long talk with the employees there. Whomever they get the MI's from, they have had fairly good success in keeping them healthy and eating.
The fish was eating at the store before we even took it home. I should also mention that the employees at the store were not willing to just sell it to anyone, they made sure that they asked us how long our tank had been up and running, and how big it was and who it would be housed with. He was the last one available as the others had been sold and he was missing part of his top fin and had no streamer. Since introducing him to our tank, both his fin and streamer have fully recovered and he is nice and chubby now. I wouldn't call us successful at keeping him yet though as it has only been a couple of months but I think we're off to a good start. We're not ready to pull him quite yet and are keeping a close eye one him. I would hate to have to give him up. Thanks to everyone for there help so far!
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