MH bulb reccomendations?

fkshiu · #1 04-06-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat

So, Ushio, Hamilton, XM???? Probe start I assume? WHat works for Vertical mount? I will be ordering most likely form J&L Or OA

You're going to have to check with the manufacturer. Most people nowadays run their MH bulbs horizontally. Those bell pendants are kinda old school having the the bulbs oriented vertically relative to the water.

banditpowdercoat · #2 04-06-2009, 03:35 AM

So can these Iwaski's be used with mag style ballasts? Where to get some?

fkshiu · #3 04-06-2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat

So can these Iwaski's be used with mag style ballasts? Where to get some?

Both OA and J&L sell them. They can be used with magnetic ballasts but they really come alive on an electronic ballast. In fact, the Aqualine Blushke 175W SE bulb out-PARs the Iwasaki slightly on a magnetic ballast.

Myka · #4 04-06-2009, 03:44 AM

I'm not totally sure, but I think a pulse start magnetic ballast won't fire up the Iwasaki, you would need a probe start, or electronic or HQI ballast. You won't get quite the peformance on the probe start at you would on an electronic ballast, but it is still a good bulb. Expensive though...just over $100. J&L has them.

fkshiu · #5 04-06-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka

I'm not totally sure, but I think a pulse start magnetic ballast won't fire up the Iwasaki, you would need a probe start, or electronic or HQI ballast. You won't get quite the peformance on the probe start at you would on an electronic ballast, but it is still a good bulb. Expensive though...just over $100. J&L has them.

The Iwasaki will work with a probe start 175w ballast (M57). I've never heard of an HQI 175W ballast. I probably will NOT work with a pulse 175w ballast.

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/lighti...-lamp-data.php

banditpowdercoat · #6 04-06-2009, 04:02 AM

How does one tell if it's a Probe or Pulse start? You know, all my years as an electrician, I just put the darn things up, and change the light bulbs. I have never paied attn to what style they are. Just MH or HPS, and what wattage needed.

Is it just me, but nothing comes up when I click your Link Fkshiu. Just a black spreadsheet

fkshiu · #7 04-06-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat

How does one tell if it's a Probe or Pulse start? You know, all my years as an electrician, I just put the darn things up, and change the light bulbs. I have never paied attn to what style they are. Just MH or HPS, and what wattage needed.

Is it just me, but nothing comes up when I click your Link Fkshiu. Just a black spreadsheet

Open up the box and look for the ANSI code. If it's probe then it will say "M57" somewhere. If it's pulse then it will have another code which I don't have handy now. Another way to tell is the number of components you see. If you see a capacitor and coil only then it is a probe ("cap 'n coil") but if you also see a third component inside - the ignitor - then it's a pulse start.

mark · #8 04-06-2009, 11:43 AM

this link has the ANSI codes with description.

Myka · #9 04-06-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fkshiu

The Iwasaki will work with a probe start 175w ballast (M57). I've never heard of an HQI 175W ballast. I probably will NOT work with a pulse 175w ballast.

No in the case of 175w I've never heard of an HQI either!

I just checked J&L, and their website says: "Note: This bulb requires a probe start (standard) or electronic ballast to operate effectively." So you're right...I had it backwards. I knew one of them would possibly not work.

His link won't work because that website doesn't allow you to link to the "results" page. Try this link and fill out either "Ballast" or "Ballast and Lamp": http://www.manhattanreefs.com/lighting