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Old 03-22-2009, 12:31 AM
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Seriously, the staff were not consulted prior to this post, and really, none fo us are crazy about it. If Ian wants to offer a reward to good Canreef citizens, that's his choice, but we don't feel a popularity contest is in the best interest of the board. And I'm sorry, that is what it would become.
You're probably right. Do you have a better idea? I wonder if Ian's idea could be altered a bit to make it a bit more "fair" (for lack of being able to think of a better word right now).
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Anything offered as a reward should be done after the fact of a thoughtless act of helping someone else. At work we have a reward system where I can nominate a coworker for a reward, and if approved by management, they get a check. I suppose Ian could ask for nominations from others for people that stand out in our community, either for their help here, or something they've done for the hobby. Rewarding members for an amount of stars or points will turn into a nightmare. People will expect stars, wonder why they didn't get one for doing something they think is helpful, etc. In the end, it will likely create more animosity than helpfulness.

"Why did Myka get a reward, my help was way better. And I helped someone three times, not only two like you, I deserve the reward, not you, this whole thing isn't fair, I'm going to RC instead."

I see the above happening a month in
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Anything offered as a reward should be done after the fact of a thoughtless act of helping someone else. At work we have a reward system where I can nominate a coworker for a reward, and if approved by management, they get a check. I suppose Ian could ask for nominations from others for people that stand out in our community, either for their help here, or something they've done for the hobby. Rewarding members for an amount of stars or points will turn into a nightmare. People will expect stars, wonder why they didn't get one for doing something they think is helpful, etc. In the end, it will likely create more animosity than helpfulness.

"Why did Myka get a reward, my help was way better. And I helped someone three times, not only two like you, I deserve the reward, not you, this whole thing isn't fair, I'm going to RC instead."

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I see that happening too. Except I don't think it will be me getting any rewards...I stir up too much "detritus".
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Old 03-22-2009, 01:16 AM
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. Except I don't think it will be me getting any rewards...I stir up too much "detritus".
Ya, sorry, I just used you as an example
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Ya, great idea, we wish Ian the best of luck in his new endeavor

Now, if any vendor wants to give away money for sarcastic posts, I'm all in for that

Seriously, the staff were not consulted prior to this post, and really, none fo us are crazy about it. If Ian wants to offer a reward to good Canreef citizens, that's his choice, but we don't feel a popularity contest is in the best interest of the board. And I'm sorry, that is what it would become.

Honesty, I would hope that this board is helpful all on it's own, without having to provide monetary incentive to "up" the help level. If it isn't, we need to address that as a core issue, not have a Nice Contest.
Hummmm.... Did some one say something about a popularity contest I'd like to thank all of my supporters in advance...... J/K

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Anything offered as a reward should be done after the fact of a thoughtless act of helping someone else. At work we have a reward system where I can nominate a coworker for a reward, and if approved by management, they get a check. I suppose Ian could ask for nominations from others for people that stand out in our community, either for their help here, or something they've done for the hobby. Rewarding members for an amount of stars or points will turn into a nightmare. People will expect stars, wonder why they didn't get one for doing something they think is helpful, etc. In the end, it will likely create more animosity than helpfulness.

"Why did Myka get a reward, my help was way better. And I helped someone three times, not only two like you, I deserve the reward, not you, this whole thing isn't fair, I'm going to RC instead."

I see the above happening a month in
Seriously though, I absolutely agree with what Brad is saying. Although it's a nice idea I really think it would turn into a nightmare.
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I see that happening too. Except I don't think it will be me getting any rewards...I stir up too much "detritus".
I love your use of the word detritus.
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Something can be a marketing thing and be good for the community, it doesn't have to be either or.

I dunno, seems to me like the idea of stars/ karama is going to lead not just to a popularity contest but also reinforce a bit of group think. You see it a bit of that anyway but I'd hate to see somebody hesitate to speak up with a contrary opinion on something just because they don't want to get voted down. Yes it's silly for somebody to do that just because of a disagreement about something but it does happen.

I can also think of about 10 ways to abuse or rig it, too much like slashdot and k5 back in the day.

Ian, it's cool that you want to do this. You just need to find a better way, have people nominate peeps in your vendor forum at the end of the period and pick a name out of a hat or something.
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Ya, sorry, I just used you as an example
No apology needed! I was just pointing out the obvious!

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I love your use of the word detritus.
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So far the responses have been exactly what I have been looking for, I simply had an idea and decided to communicate my thoughts. I am very open to ideas and will continue to read what opinions everybody is bringing to the table. I can see that a "star" or "karma" system may not work. I will think about a way that we as a community can nominate someone without making this too complicated. I would hope that some of the other vendors can chime in.

I don't want this to be a competition and agree that everyone should naturally focus on being selfless; however, we all know this isn't always the case. Maybe something will arise from everyone's ideas that would allow this to work.

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