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Old 02-25-2009, 04:35 PM
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I'd be taking it back to whereever you bought it and raise a fuss. See if it's maybe common with that brand?? Sorry about the luck
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:40 PM
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I have a serious desire to come out there at some point and look at your sump. If this is the second pump that's done this, then something is up. Nobody is this unlucky (trust me, I know a thing or two about unlucky ) Something is not right about something, but without a detailed look I can't really speculate based on your descriptions (sorry, what I mean is, I can't visualize the setup)..
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:02 PM
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The first pump was not nearly strong enough to run the system. The LFS guy took a chance in selling the substandard pump for our needs, but he did the same for our skimmer as well. He ordered the new pump and we paid extra for it. When I brought the two week old skimmer back, I lost $100 on it and only got store credit.

24storm has been to my house a couple of times and he said everything was awesome. I do think it is bad luck to be honest.

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I have a serious desire to come out there at some point and look at your sump. If this is the second pump that's done this, then something is up. Nobody is this unlucky (trust me, I know a thing or two about unlucky ) Something is not right about something, but without a detailed look I can't really speculate based on your descriptions (sorry, what I mean is, I can't visualize the setup)..
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I trust Keith's judgment but I still think there has got to be something else at work here. A pump can't fail because it's not strong enough ... if it's not strong enough to lift the water, you'll just have poor flow. However, if there is restriction on the intake side, then indeed, you are pushing the pump beyond it's limits and risking failure. In short, pumps push, they don't suck. Two pump failures in this short of timeframe may just be coincidence but it's now the point where I'm skeptical. If you have a third pump fail on you then I'll know it's not coincidence.

Who did the actual plumbing on your system, may I ask?
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:18 PM
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My hubby did it. The first pump just could not push the water at all, it goes up about 8 feet. When he gets home we will tear it down again. However, you are welcome to come over anytime you like... It is beautiful out here and if you like hiking, I can take you out...

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I trust Keith's judgment but I still think there has got to be something else at work here. A pump can't fail because it's not strong enough ... if it's not strong enough to lift the water, you'll just have poor flow. However, if there is restriction on the intake side, then indeed, you are pushing the pump beyond it's limits and risking failure. In short, pumps push, they don't suck. Two pump failures in this short of timeframe may just be coincidence but it's now the point where I'm skeptical. If you have a third pump fail on you then I'll know it's not coincidence.

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Old 02-25-2009, 05:20 PM
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Also what should I take pictures of to post exactly. I have my iphone in hand and can snap some shots.

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I trust Keith's judgment but I still think there has got to be something else at work here. A pump can't fail because it's not strong enough ... if it's not strong enough to lift the water, you'll just have poor flow. However, if there is restriction on the intake side, then indeed, you are pushing the pump beyond it's limits and risking failure. In short, pumps push, they don't suck. Two pump failures in this short of timeframe may just be coincidence but it's now the point where I'm skeptical. If you have a third pump fail on you then I'll know it's not coincidence.

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if you can get a top down of the sump I'd like to take a look at it...
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Give me 20minutes

QUOTE=Rbacchiega;392851]if you can get a top down of the sump I'd like to take a look at it...[/quote]
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I trust Keith's judgment but I still think there has got to be something else at work here. A pump can't fail because it's not strong enough ... if it's not strong enough to lift the water, you'll just have poor flow. However, if there is restriction on the intake side, then indeed, you are pushing the pump beyond it's limits and risking failure. In short, pumps push, they don't suck. Two pump failures in this short of timeframe may just be coincidence but it's now the point where I'm skeptical. If you have a third pump fail on you then I'll know it's not coincidence.

Who did the actual plumbing on your system, may I ask?

I have seen the setup a few times but i never paid attention to how it was all plumped. I aggree that something is not quite right with this. If you can get some pics of everything from the pump feed in the tank to the pump and then the lines coming into the tank that may help some.

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