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Old 02-24-2009, 08:26 PM
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I don't understand the need for 2 500W heaters... my large system is at a steady 80 degrees with 4 pumps (2 return and 2 for the octo skimmer) and 4 powerheads in the water. Doesn't really fluctuate with lights on or off either. Maybe consider taking them out and see if it makes a difference in temp and cost.

Just so we can compare, my bill was $369 with Enmax:
2 250W MH
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:34 PM
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The electricity portion of the bill is only $175/month, so it sounds like I'm not doing too bad. I'm only running the MH lights from 2pm - 7pm, when I should be running a 10hr cycle for max coral growth.

I'll turn off a heater, but my system is made to run in the summer without a chiller. I've got a fan-driven open hood design that doesn't hold any heat from the lights, plus the overflows drop the water to the sumps in the garage, which is quite cool.

The return pump pushes the water back up 15ft, drawing lots of power. I'm going to buy a Kill A Watt, anyone seen them in stores? I'll buy it online if not.
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:44 PM
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I am going to get one of these ones tonight so i can do some checking on my stuff. Also Enmax has a program called easymax that lets you lock in your rate a 8 cents per killowatt for 5 years if i had done this before Jan i would have saved almost 100.00 on my Jan bill.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/pr...08474396672790
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:13 PM
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Can I borrow it

Someone mentioned the one at Costco is really god so maybe I'll grab one when I go back in a week or two. I am thinking my crappy Blue line is a power sucker. Time to get rid of it...

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I am going to get one of these ones tonight so i can do some checking on my stuff. Also Enmax has a program called easymax that lets you lock in your rate a 8 cents per killowatt for 5 years if i had done this before Jan i would have saved almost 100.00 on my Jan bill.

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Old 02-24-2009, 09:17 PM
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my Enmax bill in December was $615 and the kicker is that the house was empty for 3 weeks and the temps turned down....
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my Enmax bill in December was $615 and the kicker is that the house was empty for 3 weeks and the temps turned down....
gas is a lot cheaper than electricity, leave the heat up so you dont spend the money on heating up your tank
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:41 PM
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gas is a lot cheaper than electricity, leave the heat up so you dont spend the money on heating up your tank
I'll have to look into it...my electrical is 7 cents per kwh...the temps in my tank wont vary much as the volume of water is significant...
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gas is a lot cheaper than electricity, leave the heat up so you dont spend the money on heating up your tank

Not from what I have experienced. My last place, a three floor Duplex, was solely elec heat. My elec bill was less than my buds gas bill for his place.


When talking Large ovens, Like my Powdercoat ovens, Elec is cheap. Just takes a while to heat a 7'x6'x5' Oven. 18KW of elec heat.

My gas bill for just my trailer is about the same as the Hydro bill for the house AND the shop/oven. But then, I was stupid a while back and locked my gas in BAD DAN, BAD....
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my Enmax bill in December was $615 and the kicker is that the house was empty for 3 weeks and the temps turned down....
That's almost a $1/gallon...
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:32 PM
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So... are you still laying on the floor, or are you up on the ceiling... When you call they will give you the "jedi mind trick" and confuse you into thinking the bill is right.


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