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Old 01-18-2009, 09:39 PM
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Well you have to face the fact that the media nver sugar coats anything. if anything it puts a black cloud over all.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:42 PM
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also almost no animals if any are wild captured for a zoo thier all bred at other zoo's and traded in breeding programs or to a zoo with a suitable enclosure,
any wild animals that do end up in zoo's are rescue animals like the orphaned bears when the mother was killed by a logging truck, one of the eagles was found with broken wings and a missing eye and im sure their are lots of other man caused accidents that the zoo is now taking care of.

as for them doing research the calgary zoo is a huge supporter of animal sanctuaries around the world, i seen a yearly spending report for the zoo once and it spends crazy amounts of money on things around the world.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:51 PM
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looks to me like a freak accident. How many children have died from accidents with toys, cribs, etc that have found to be unsafe and recalled after the fact?
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:46 AM
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Of the zoo's I have been to in Canada (Edmonton, Vancouver, Calgary) the Calgary one is the best with the most suitable enclosures, the Vancouver zoo is the worst.

Of the zoo's on a world wide scale, San Diego Zoo is by far the best I have ever been to followed by the Sydney Zoo.

This seems to be a an accident that one really could not predict.

I would however be interested in why the rays died.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:47 AM
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Agree with everything said here. While a zoo isn't maybe a perfect thing to have exist in the first place it does bring everyday people closer to nature and hopefully make them care about it a bit more. I support the zoo even tho in some ways I don't fully agree with them even existing...same thing as this hobby I love so much.
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Well you have to face the fact that the media nver sugar coats anything. if anything it puts a black cloud over all.
have to agree, nothing sells more papers than a little controversy....

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"After Williams returned to the goat exhibit, she saw a zoo keeper attempting CPR on the goat, but it was too late."

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Williams said she believes zoo officials may have taken too long to reach the goat.

"It was quite a few minutes," she said. "It wasn't five. It was probably more."

how did she know, she wasn't there and "she believes" ?????? who is she and what does she do??????

this is the media making a story from a tragic situation, is it a horrible shame??, yes but it's hard to lay blame not actually being there.
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:06 AM
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Yes, even this quote ....."It wasn't five. It was probably more."....is somewhat contradictory. The first part..."It wasn't five. ...."...is definitive. But the second part...".... It was probably more."....is not, and actually suggests that maybe the first part is not so definitive at all. Clearly said by someone who didn't know facts.
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:42 AM
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LOL, sorry...I should hang like a goat...

I saw the interview with the woman and it was my understanding she had told the dim bulb in the gift shop about the entanglement with the rope....to which the gal replied they do that all the time. It was my understanding in the interview that she went back again after the goat fell, and was strangling.

Maybe I saw it wrong. Or maybe, where is that video? So I can watch it again to be sure?

Oh well, let's go breed more elephants !!! Whoo Hoooo !!!
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:44 AM
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Looks to me like a freak accident. How many children have died from accidents with toys, cribs, etc that have found to be unsafe and recalled after the fact?
I don't think about that so much. I care about animals a lot....

There has to be a few of each type you know....
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:23 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBc0HgW2zHw

found the ctv news video
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