crabs new 24" cube

[i have crabs]

Originally Posted by mtlmatt

Hey guys,
I'm kind of new to the whole saltwater world and I have a few questions about a new frag tank I'm starting. I recently bought a current USA 24" 4 t5ho (24 watt each) (140$), a remora maxi jet 1200 (120$) 2 power heads and a heater, all in a custom tank
(24'x16'x18,) (180$). A friend of mine has a 140g saltwater tank and I'm going to use his water the next time he does a water change. I wanted to know if I would need more filtration, lighting, ECT. I would also like it if someone can give me some ideas on how to set up the tank and the egg crate. Thanks alot and I'm sure I will have more questions to come.

probably wouldnt be a bad idea to start your own thread wher people can help you better,
i dont think using his water is gonna do much for you but mabey some of his filter material will help yours cycle faster and also mabey get some pictures so we can see what your working with.

[i have crabs]

well thier was no way a could wait another 12 hours to the everything cure properly so i went and riped off 2 of the 3 rocks,
to be fair the mr sticky busted off but the glue definatly wasnt cured in the middle and probably would have been alot harder if i waited longer.
the dd epoxy rock i could barely bust off but it finally came off the rock(rock was quite smooth) it was very hard to get off though
finally the silicone rock i couldn't even get off twisted quite a but but wouldn't crack lose,

since sillicone is a fraction of the price and seemed to hold quite well im happy enough with the results to risk my fingers and saw a bunch of rocks in half.
now i just have to go find some good candidates and probably a few more cutting disks

[Boomboy]

this is a really good idea, i was going to have a wall of rock on my back overflow, didnt think of this but now i will try it. you should kinda make it bigger on the bottom and gradually bring it in so that you could put corals on it also.

[rattler]

Hey crabs!

Maybe do a long test on the silicone in water. I remember looking at Piecies pets big tank not that long ago and over 60% of the rocks that they siliconed together were falling off. These rocks were attached to them selves, as well as to the glass. With this much work going in to this system it would be horrendous to have something fail and need to be re-set up.

Just a thought

Cheers!
Geoff

[i have crabs]

i thought the tank in picies was all made from foam and isnt even real rock,
i wanna cut a piece of regular live rock in half and see how solid the inside is compared to the reef rock if its solid with lots of holes i think it will hold well but if its crumbly like some of the less dense rock is then i think the rock its self might break apart while the silicone holds,
i think ill silicone all 3 back onto the glass and stick it in a bucket of water for a few days or a week maybe and we'll see how that goes i guess, im just getting ancy about getting water in the tank and its hard to hold out even though i know i should, maybe albert wont ship my pump in a timely manner and ill be forced to take my time

[Canadian]

Just tagging along for ideas as I plan a similar tank.

[i have crabs]

finally figure out a good way to do these rocks. the silicone worked ok but after a few days in water i was able to pull it off which left a bunch of rock crumbs in the silicone so i tried putting a thin layer of epoxy on the rock then i siliconed the rock to the glass,



if anyone here thinks they have strong enough fingers to pull this apart now id like to see it and might even give you a prize, im quite shure you will be goin home with sore fingers though,
now i have to go buy some rocks that i can cut in half without to much problems,