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Old 12-30-2008, 03:23 AM
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tank is 60 gal and will house, about 60 pounds live rock, same for sand, mostly corals but will have 4 sea horse, and possibly some smaller fish in the future.
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:37 AM
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I tried it...lasted about a month. The tank looked great and corals actually had better color then now but I hated the maintenance and it was only a month! I can't imagine a long term skimmerless tank personally. Just too much work. Its easy in the beginning but over time once the "new and exciting" part wears off, I think it gets harder to keeping doing water changes. I only had two clowns most of that time in the tank and I still had to do water changes every two weeks to keep the nitrates at 0. It was a 68G, so about the same size as your thinking.

I think if you don't mind a lot of extra water changes (which will cost more than a skimmer eventually) then its a cool way to do a tank but if not, don't bother. Find a tank you can fit a sump.
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Old 12-30-2008, 05:28 PM
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Definitely do-able. Dont use bio balls. Use live rock rubble instead. No nitrate sponge. Put a good phosphate remover (rowa or GFO) in a media bag. You can also run carbon this way if you so desire. A sump doesnt have to be huge or fancy. I can be as basic as a small tank big enough to hold a return pump. A custom sized sump designed to fit the inside of the cabinet could be commissioned from a LFS for a couple hundred bucks.
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