Ok It's BUBBLE KING REVIEW

Pan · #1 12-08-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps

The vertex is Proline's answer to their issue with euro reef, it's the exact same skimmer except they added a diffuser chamber which was a good addition. However the collection cup attaches by a gland seal o-ring which makes removing the collection cup a real PITA and a recipe for skimmate spill. If you're looking for a good skimmer in a $400 budget it's a good choice but I wouldn't go any further.

I used a Euro Reef 180 in my tank for a few weeks while I waited for my BK, it was like I didn't even have a skimmer and barely pulled anything, when I hooked up the BK it was like I never even had a skimmer before, cleaned the tank up real fast. I know Mike's tried a few skimmers on his tank and it seems he's ready for something a little more reliable, constant and effective.

You guy's can trash talk BKs all you want but you get what you pay for. I would bet with all the money Mike's invested in skimmers he could have bought two BKs by now

Trash Talk? When i read of so many people saying that their skimmer is built really well but performs comparable to cheaper skimmers, i'm sorry but image means nothing to me, i think everyone said they perform well, just not as well as the price would seem to dictate. If he has the money to burn, and doesn't want cheaper alternatives, then by all means go for it. We've all bought equipment that should have lived up to the hype and didn't and equipment that was supposed crap and performed excellently, I for one have seen the same euro-reef skimmers pull completely diff. amounts of gunk...why i don't know...i think all this equipment is somewhat like that

I think the ATI Bubblemaster was a good skimmer as well, the company behind it however

sphelps · #2 12-08-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy

Trash Talk? When i read of so many people saying that their skimmer is built really well but preforms comparable to cheaper skimmers, i'm sorry but image means nothing to me, i think everyone said they perform well, just not as well as the price would seem to dictate.

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, I've just noticed the BKs get a lot of trash talk on this forum and it hasn't started yet on this thread but I'm kind of expecting it to.

Don't read too much into things I'm just trying to help and would prefer to avoid any skimmer debates this time around.

Pan · #3 12-08-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, I've just noticed the BKs get a lot of trash talk on this forum and it hasn't started yet on this thread but I'm kind of expecting it to.

Don't read too much into things I'm just trying to help and would prefer to avoid any skimmer debates this time around.

Agreed, to thine own skimmer be true

I would like to try a Bubble king just to see if it works, but I am happy with my three euro-reefs....they do what i need them to

I just think the price is a lot, considering custom skimmers are close, sometime even cheaper...

Skimmerking · #4 12-08-2008, 09:20 PM

yes I agree that the Bubble kings get huge Trash talk ,but why because of the $$$$$$$$$, then why are so many people in Germany screaming about them.

sphelps · #5 12-08-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus

yes I agree that the Bubble kings get huge Trash talk ,but why because of the $$$$$$$$$, then why are so many people in Germany screaming about them.

I think German's like fish more than Canadians

Or maybe because the hobby is more advanced over there and experience pays.

Skimmerking · #6 12-08-2008, 10:04 PM

WOW I can't believe that its this hardto make a decision about a skimmer.... man Im starting to get a head ache. about it

StirCrazy · #7 12-08-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps

I think German's like fish more than Canadians

Or maybe because the hobby is more advanced over there and experience pays.

because they will be a lot cheeper there. probably 1/2 the price. Can you imagin what the shipping and such is here, plus the markup, ect..

you have the mark up from the manufacture to make ther emoney,(they probably sell direct in Germany for that price)
then you have the guy who has the distrubution rights in north america, who ships them in and adds a markup, then you probably have a canadian distrubuter who adds his cut and boarder crossing fees and shipping, then the stores.

It is just like some stuff I bought in Dubai and India, cost me 8 bucks for a carved eliphant from the guy who carved it, I saw something not as good sitting on a shelf in the brick for over 900.00

Steve

blaster · #8 12-08-2008, 11:13 PM

With a bubbleking you get low power consumption and quiet operation.I have a supermarine 250 and like it lots.They are expensive,but are built to last.

albert_dao · #9 12-08-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy

because they will be a lot cheeper there. probably 1/2 the price. Can you imagin what the shipping and such is here, plus the markup, ect..

you have the mark up from the manufacture to make ther emoney,(they probably sell direct in Germany for that price)
then you have the guy who has the distrubution rights in north america, who ships them in and adds a markup, then you probably have a canadian distrubuter who adds his cut and boarder crossing fees and shipping, then the stores.

It is just like some stuff I bought in Dubai and India, cost me 8 bucks for a carved eliphant from the guy who carved it, I saw something not as good sitting on a shelf in the brick for over 900.00

Steve

BK's are more expensive in Germany.

sphelps · #10 12-09-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy

because they will be a lot cheeper there. probably 1/2 the price. Can you imagin what the shipping and such is here, plus the markup, ect..

you have the mark up from the manufacture to make ther emoney,(they probably sell direct in Germany for that price)
then you have the guy who has the distrubution rights in north america, who ships them in and adds a markup, then you probably have a canadian distrubuter who adds his cut and boarder crossing fees and shipping, then the stores.

It is just like some stuff I bought in Dubai and India, cost me 8 bucks for a carved eliphant from the guy who carved it, I saw something not as good sitting on a shelf in the brick for over 900.00

Steve

SM 250 is 1250 EUR with is over $2000 Canadian. Link

The vertex skimmers are made in the exact same Chinese factory as Euro Reefs. The pumps are made by Resun, not exactly the best pump makers. I assure you I know a little something about protein skimmers