12000k xenon car lights

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by dabandit

I cant find the par value site yet

Well keep looking cause that's what we or at least what I would be most interested in seeing. I already knew Xenon lights used the same technology as MH. You should be able to find the site in your browser history. It seems a little strange to me that you found the very thing that makes or breaks the use of this lighting and now "you can't find it"

Originally Posted by Whatigot

I'm sure there were skeptics when MH and T5's were first considered for aquarium use as well.

Perhaps but it's easier not to be skeptical when bulbs are produced for the sole purpose of use in the aquarium hobby.

[dabandit]

Arent you friendlly.I've spent a week researching this....think about it b efore you go accusing me of being a liar AGAIN Par value is the percentage of light that reaches the target after disspation via heat and such is it not? Now take a mh bulb and compare how far the light goes to a headlight on a car better yet look directlly into each because your begining to annoy me
Through my research I've found what I wanted to know and believe I've provide enough proof that this is a viable technology,if thats not good enough for you thats not my problem try google,then come apologise when your done

[dabandit]

Dont forget im talking watt for watt 2x 35w xenon vs 1x70w halide I would only use 1 but I dont think you get 10000k less than 70w with halide.

Anyway im done for today good luck with your search,arent you staff im sure you have acess to a par lux candlewatt thing a ma jobby

[hillbillyreefer]

Here's a link on nano-reef. The setup looks good on the tank. There is lots of debate on powersupplies etc.

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/inde...40575&hl=xenon

IIRC they do put out 4000 + lm, but I'm not going to do the research again.

Now you guys have me wanting to get mine running again. Maybe I'll look into that tonight. More SPS in the tank now and it could use more light. I do like the looks of the xenon.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by dabandit

Arent you friendlly.I've spent a week researching this....think about it b efore you go accusing me of being a liar AGAIN Par value is the percentage of light that reaches the target after disspation via heat and such is it not? Now take a mh bulb and compare how far the light goes to a headlight on a car better yet look directlly into each because your begining to annoy me
Through my research I've found what I wanted to know and believe I've provide enough proof that this is a viable technology,if thats not good enough for you thats not my problem try google,then come apologise when your done

Yeah I admit I'm the rude one for asking for a simple link to help clarify your blunt statements. PAR, as already stated, is the Photosynthetically Active Radiation which is pretty self explanatory and the beam created by a headlight is a result from the reflector not the bulb.
Just because something makes sense in your head doesn't make it fact and just stating you've done research doesn't give credibility, the most important part of any research project are the references.

[dabandit]

Hey hillbilly a guy who's ACTUALLY tried lol,I found a site that claims the 55w version runs the ballast way too hot and 35w is the only way to go,could this be the source of your ballast issues maybe?

Sphelps,thanks for the reminder I wasnt too sure about that,sorry i'm not able to produce links to every site I've visited in the past week,I didnt realise there would be a quiz.....I can see theres no getting through to you so I give up just cant get over you implying im a liar,I dont think I've done anything to warrant that behavior,anyway have a nice life

Everyone else I hope you learned something,thanks for tuning into my thread

[dabandit]

It seems a little strange to me that you found the very thing that makes or breaks the use of this lighting and now "you can't find it" :confused


Are you saying this isnt being rude? get bent

[Whatigot]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Well keep looking cause that's what we or at least what I would be most interested in seeing. I already knew Xenon lights used the same technology as MH. You should be able to find the site in your browser history. It seems a little strange to me that you found the very thing that makes or breaks the use of this lighting and now "you can't find it"


Perhaps but it's easier not to be skeptical when bulbs are produced for the sole purpose of use in the aquarium hobby.

you seriously think that t5's and MH were originally built for aquarium use?
sorry to say, but these lighting systems were not invented with this purpose in mind, it took someone who loved the hobby to give it a shot and grow from there.

come on....

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Whatigot

you seriously think that t5's and MH were originally built for aquarium use?
sorry to say, but these lighting systems were not invented with this purpose in mind, it took someone who loved the hobby to give it a shot and grow from there.

come on....

Never said that, I just said they make T5 and MH bulbs for aquariums, they don't make Xenon bulbs for aquariums and why would they when you can get a MH bulb already?

[Whatigot]

and my comment before hand was that there were skeptics when MH and t5 were first brought into the hobby, your rebuttle was that you can afford the be more confident in those technologies because they are specifically made for aquarium use.

I don't get what you were trying to say?

What does confidence in a tech matter when it's already established?...lol
This is obviously something new and not comparable to your confidence level in already proven stuff.

My point was just that you can be cynical all you want but people were cynical about the techs that we consider common place now when they were first introduced into the hobby, like MH and t5.