Livestock Budget Increase Poll (Contest Members Only)

[Marlin65]

It does not matter to me one way or the other but I am with stirCrazy on this one. To change the rules half way though is not ethical.

[superduperwesman]

Originally Posted by Marlin65

It does not matter to me one way or the other but I am with stirCrazy on this one. To change the rules half way though is not ethical.

Yeah if everybody broke the rules all the time things would be a mess... but you can't claim that any rule change is always unethical?? If so I think my buddy Josh would be a little upset that he has to ride at the back of the bus. If the foundation of something is less than ideal from the start then a change is required and that shouldn't really be a problem as long as it follows the correct "Management of Change Process."

And in this case it is apparent that a majority of the contestants would agree that a change is required... I guess if we wanted to be more fair we could add up all of the 0's, 50's, 100's, 150's and divide the total by the number of contestants so that everyone's vote influences the actual number increase, so even though a contestant may lose to the majority they can still bring the average down oppose to being a losing majority with no actual influence on the outcome.

If we do it like that it'll kinda be like government elections... you lost on the whole but hey you still get a few seats in parliament ahah

Might be a little more representative of the true situation?

Which would mean a $95 increase given the current votes at the time of this post if my calculations are correct.

[StirCrazy]

superduperwesman, you seem to be the only one arguing this, is it you that wants the budgit increased as you don't feel you can do it for under 300?

anyways, guess I forgot.. rules we ment to be broken

guess that means we can start posting cars and table saws in the buy and sell section on the board as no one will mind if we change the rules.

Steve

[superduperwesman]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

superduperwesman, you seem to be the only one arguing this, is it you that wants the budgit increased as you don't feel you can do it for under 300?

Ahaha...... ahahah Seriously??? Says the guy who post an argument ahahah I mean it's no fun when you do my job for me. What's the point in trying when you just disprove yourself?? Better luck next time.

I just joined the contest yesterday so I just thought I'd get in my opinion before the closing date.

But yeah I guess I'm the ONLY one arguing.... oh right... and YOU blahahh. Oooh thats right it takes two to argue?? And I guess everyone on the other 5 pages don't matter either??

I've made tanks for less I could do it again... but it's to early to tell what I want to do so I figured add cushion and if I come in below... good. And at the end of the day everyone not in the contest seems to want the budget to remain unchanged... and then they'll probably complain about how pitiful the tanks they'll be voting on are.

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

anyways, guess I forgot.. rules we ment to be broken

guess that means we can start posting cars and table saws in the buy and sell section on the board as no one will mind if we change the rules.

If you recall:

Originally Posted by superduperwesman

Yeah if everybody broke the rules all the time things would be a mess... If the foundation of something is less than ideal from the start then a change is required and that shouldn't really be a problem as long as it follows the correct "Management of Change Process."

I don't recall saying rules were meant to be broken? More like at times they need to be. I guarantee if you take the argument "rules should never be broken" over "sometimes rules need to change" (which is what you seem to be alluding too with your sarcastic eye roll) you will lose every time because arguments brake down in absolutes and because you can't judge something by it's abuse. You CAN NOT RATIONALLY DENY that rules sometimes need to be changed... and I think I've already proven that with my buddy Josh.

I think not posting your table saw on a fish forum is founded on something a little more solid than an obscure number selection.

But feel free to... not argue some more??

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

superduperwesman, you seem to be the only one arguing this, is it you that wants the budgit increased as you don't feel you can do it for under 300?

anyways, guess I forgot.. rules we ment to be broken

guess that means we can start posting cars and table saws in the buy and sell section on the board as no one will mind if we change the rules.

Steve

What's with all this rule talk? The rule would be "stay within budget", increasing the budget doesn't change the rule, it still applies.
Plus you can't say wesman is the only one, not one person in the contest voted to keep the budget the same, to me that says something.
Sorry to say but I really don't think anyone in the contest is doing all this to impress everyone on Canreef. We're doing it for the fun of it and I personally still want a nice tank to look at the end of the day and feel a budget increase will help that.
You're entitled to opinions but I don't see how ethics has anything to do with this and if we're going to use parallels and examples lets use ones that actually make sense, after all sometimes you have to flush twice, and that doesn't mean the world is going to end.

[Der_Iron_Chef]

I'm just wondering when this contest is going to be fun? All this arguing, coupled with smiley emoticons and passive-aggressive crap is ruining my impression of this whole @^@#$ thing. Who wants my $20 entry fee? I'm about to step out.

[rocketlily]

Originally Posted by Der_Iron_Chef

I'm just wondering when this contest is going to be fun? All this arguing, coupled with smiley emoticons and passive-aggressive crap is ruining my impression of this whole @^@#$ thing.

I agree. Please don't step out. We need some sanity in this contest.

[Chaloupa]

I'm having fun...and in the end you have the tank, you decide what you do and you enjoy it...I like my little tank and am going to have fun making it look great and stay healthy...that's the main idea. So have fun with it!

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Der_Iron_Chef

I'm just wondering when this contest is going to be fun? All this arguing, coupled with smiley emoticons and passive-aggressive crap is ruining my impression of this whole @^@#$ thing. Who wants my $20 entry fee? I'm about to step out.

Well I'm having fun and I think Wes joined because he saw he was missing out on all this entertainment. A little debate is good for everyone and judging by the views we get on some of these threads others are definitely enjoying all this as well. You can't seriously be that sheltered were a little debate and a few smiley's make you run home to mommy This is all fun stuff what would you rather talk about? Rainbows and unicorns?
If you can't tell, I'm just kidding

[Der_Iron_Chef]

I work with teenage prostitutes and drug addicts, and the last thing I need on Canreef is more bickering. And the smilies don't hide the antagonism and aggravation behind much of the "debate"...so no, it's not enjoyable for me. Sorry.