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12-25-2008, 02:24 PM
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[quote=albert_dao;371420]Is this a personal attack? Cause calling me a liar, a BLATANT liar, seems like one. I was under that impression that moderators are here to prevent this sort of behavior.
quote] Nope not at all and not directed at you, but rather the ones where I have been in a LFS (not necessarily in Victoria either) and overheard the sales people telling newbies that you cannot have a nice tank unless you buy this (brand X). it is a blatant lie and as far as I am concerned it is taking advantage. I know the world is buyer beware and that we should educate ourselves, but this is why you see so many new people start up tanks with all this top notch equipment and then 3 months later there selling everything off for less than 50% of what they have paid. My main problem with these methods isn't that you don't need them or they do or don't work, but rather that they make having a tank so labor extensive. I know Aqua is going to re-mention the pump system, but there is an extra 800ish on top of the rest. so for some one on a budget is isn't feasible. Steve
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12-25-2008, 01:41 PM
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If you want to look for long term success, just spend an hour scrolling through the German boards, you will find multiple LNF systems Just because a product has not been in North America that long does not mean either it does not work or is new and should be overlooked like some sort of alien, North America seems to be the last place on earth to embrace new ideas in this hobby and I think a lot of that comes from the unwillingness to go outside a set comfort zone. Whether you use Fauna or zeo or what ever they are all proven to work and when used as directed produce results that really cant be acheived in any other way. It is then up to the interested party to embrace this or bury our heads back in the sand hoping it will go away so we can get back to our comfort zone. Yes you can have a nice tank without using these systems, but you also can have a much more vibrant healthy and colourful tank when using them. You need to understand the concept first I guess to understand this. You are removing all unnatural pollutants from the tank and replacing with the exact aminos bacterias and trace elements found in the wild, so providing a natural enviroment, well this is how fauna works and I think zeo is not far different, they just employ different dosing strategies and a few different concepts. Merry christmas one and all  Last edited by Aqua-Digital; 12-25-2008 at 01:45 PM.
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