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Old 09-21-2007, 04:28 PM
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I have noticed a lot of backlash and...well other remarks regarding Zeo on RC lately. But alas like everything else who knows. I have not tried it, but even the people I've talked to wo have run it for awhile say it keeps their tanks on a very fine razor thin line. I've had people tell me the only reason it works is it forces people who spend that much money to have a reason to constantly monitor their tanks, which if they hadn't forked out the money they wouldn't. If i had the money i would have tied it though...just to see.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:07 AM
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Quite frankly I'm getting sick of justifying my use of Zeo and that is why initially I didn't want to post in this thread.

Everyone has an opinion but unless you've tried it your opinion means nothing.

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Old 09-23-2007, 04:53 AM
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I am with Jason here. I have been using ZEOvit for about a year. I have had remarkable results and will be using it until something better comes along. Now that the cost of the products have come down by about 25% it has become very affordable. If you have been lucky enough to have seen Jason's tank you would definitely agree with what ever system Jason is employing. I have seen many very exceptional tanks and I can tell you very few of these Reefers are practising the same method.

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Old 09-23-2007, 04:58 AM
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I am curious about total cost vs the cost of Reef Refresh system by PolypLabs.

Anybody know?
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:16 AM
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I originally looked at the Reef Refresh system and estimated my costs for my 500G setup to be approx $1800 per year. My original estimates for ZEOvit was approx $1400 per year. My first year costs have been approx $900 as once my levels came into check I cut my dosage's to about half. I am using just the basic 4.

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I originally looked at the Reef Refresh system and estimated my costs for my 500G setup to be approx $1800 per year. My original estimates for ZEOvit was approx $1400 per year. My first year costs have been approx $900 as once my levels came into check I cut my dosage's to about half. I am using just the basic 4.

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Not bad for a 500 (!!!) gallon set up. Actually, I've read that in the larger systems, not only can you cut down to half of your dosing scheme during phase 3, but you can get away with using significantly less product than the recommended volume amount. There's a few tanks on Z-Land that go on this rule.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:18 PM
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Is there any point in running Zeo in the initial stages of the tank's life? Or is it best to start the regimen once you have some stock of corals in your tank?
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:26 PM
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There is much merit to starting out with Zeovit if you consider the progression of a Zeovit system:

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Different ZeoVit phases by Aged Salt

ZEOvit phases depend on the nutrient level & coral appearance. Nutrients are relatively high[with "pooled-reserves"] & corals are dull in coloration. Polyp-extension may or may not be present.

Consider phase 1 the initiatation of ZEOvit method. The basic 4 are used to reduce nutrients in a balanced manner. As nutrients & "reserves" are depleted, the corals become brighter, lighter in appearance & the quantities of the zeo's dosed becomes less.

Enter phase 2[~3-6mos], the corals continue to colorize more & nutrients are becoming more exhausted. During this phase, however, if dosing is stopped for more than a few days, nutrients again begin to rise, & corals become darker. This is due to "pooled-reserves" still remaining available.


Phase 3[5-10months] is characterized by stable nutrients & color appearance of the corals, ie. if the zeo's are not dosed for many days, the N03's/P04's do not increase & coral colors remain fast. In this phase, the stored nutrients are exhausted, as evidenced by the low quantites of Bak/Food7/Start used, with coral color intensive.
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Is there any point in running Zeo in the initial stages of the tank's life? Or is it best to start the regimen once you have some stock of corals in your tank?
My tank had been up and running for 3 1/2 years when I started to use ZEOvit. If you are starting ZEOvit in an established tank you start your dosage at about 50% and progress slowly over the first year.

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use fauna marine Ultralith, much more cost effective!!!!!!!!!!!
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