Finally, life is good...

[Bob I]

Deb et al., I am not sure why you continue to try and educate Bob. He has made it plain and clear for the last year that he is going to do things his way. I see no point trying to force a point like gas exchange. You do your thing, and Bob can exchange his gas anyway he sees fit. Please help the people that ask for help, for the are the ones that appreciate the effort. You all give really good advice, so give it to people that want it...

There is something that bothers me here. I posted this in the CALGARY forum. Why is it that someone from Victoria answers it. Had I posted in the REEF forum, I would expect that, but when I post in the Calgary forum I do not expect flames from Victoria. When I made the post I expected flames. Deb's answer was perfectly reasonable, but I dismissed it out of hand because I was using information accumulated over the years. I think Deb appreciated that. I did say thanks for the idea, but when you have fish doing cartwheels less than 24 hours after purchase, you tend to get PO'd.

So really Brad I can say no more than please keep your remarks to the REEF forum. There we expect it, and if I expect a flame from you I will post there also.

Perhaps our moderatores could look at this.

[AJ_77]

I think the answers lie with more experienced aquarists than me, Ross...
I just remember the swings I would get in those first few months, and how fickle the tank seemed - I couldn't be cautious enough, and then there was a couple of "wait 6 months for livestock" threads.

So I went pretty slow, I guess, not wanting to upset the "not-quite-balance" of the system. Yes I did at one point lose two week-old fish together that were added together, after I was advised to only add one at a time with a minimum 2 weeks in between... But that was pretty much it for losses, and the only time I can point to where I may have tipped the balance negatively by additions.

The thing is, at 6 or 12 months your tank will be unrecognizable to you, you can see it ripening - it's quite amazing. At a year or more you could maybe get away with intrducing a shoal or so - but I still get real nervous about a new system. Can't help it, after watching mine go through the phases, and then have a green water bloom to top it all off. (Watch your phosphate sources carefully, BTW. )

Don't know if this helps - hope so though.

[Canadian Man]

I don't see any problem with anyone posting replies in any forum.
The specific post's in the Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver etc. are just for info that more portrays to that specific area. I am not a Moderator so I suppose my opinion wont matter to some but I dont mind if everyone replies to my post's.

The more involvement the better and the more discussion on a public discussion board the better!

[Bob I]

Originally Posted by TANGOMAN

Hi Bob, yes, follically challenged was what I was gettin' at...
Red Pipe Organ is certainly of interest ! Wanna' make some money ? Can ya' total up what ya' want for all your "goods" and let me know.

The green mushrooms are giving problems. I scraped some off their rock, but they slimed and died. I need a better method.

I would not charge for the Organ Pipe, because I got it for free.

I would have to charge $15.00 for the White Colt, as it was part of a colony I paid 50 bucks for.

The little GSP's you can have for 5 bucks. They will spread.

[TANGOMAN]

Aaah, back on track... . Bob, put me down for the GSP's and the White Colt. I'll bring $20.oo for those and a big thank-you for the pipe. Sorry, no hugs from this guy... Too bad there's no Hairy Mushrooms.
"Who can look at an empty tank for six months...?" I waited nine months in total after two parasitic infestations that whiped me out. It really sucked but I'm now reaping the rewards for my patience. I've said before, good things happen slowly, bad things happen fast...
I too have been lookin' for a Royal Gramma for a very long time. It's tough to pass something up when it comes around but I will no longer accept anything but "premium quality" specimens...one of these days... maybe weeks or months...

Kim writes, "I'm all for passing gas anytime..." Me too, card stores are the best :shock:

[Aquattro]

Bob, I will respond to any post in any forum viewable by me on this board. If you feel the Calgary forum should be private and viewable only by Calgary users, perhaps Titus can help you with that. And I challenge you to find a moderator that will tell me to stay out of "your" forum.

[Bob I]

Originally Posted by reef_raf

Bob, I will respond to any post in any forum viewable by me on this board. If you feel the Calgary forum should be private and viewable only by Calgary users, perhaps Titus can help you with that. And I challenge you to find a moderator that will tell me to stay out of "your" forum.

I hope you don't mind if I take some advice given a long time ago "Never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent"

[christyf5]

Well at least the Calgary forum has better entertainment value (for now anyway) :P

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by rcipema

The point is that I have kept fish for about 40 years, and have read numerous books. During all that time it has been my understanding that bubbles pumped into water do not increase oxygen levels. It is always possible that all those authors were wrong, or there has been more recent information.

Bob, sense you seem to have about 13 years on me.. I guess you are right and I should follow what you say with no question.. and becasue you have a few mnore years experience than me.. you have to know everything...

in reality if you realy reed thoes books instead of just looking for spelling mistakes you will see as the publishing dates get closer and closer to today a strange thing happens.. info changes and new things are descovered.. ti is called PROGRESS and you can't stop it by hiding behind "I have been keeping fish for 40 year" statments.. from what I have seen and heard from you ya you have been keeping fish for 40 years... and you still havent learnd a thang sence 1963..

hell I used to think undergrevel filters were the best thing.. (and the were at the time) now they are outdated and it has been proven they cause problems later.. I used to have fish only tanks with way to make tangs in it or angels.. now I know that they need more space.. why.. because I listent ot what others have to say and explore the possability that something I learned 20 years ago might be wrong instead of hiding and refusing to ackwnolage that something I read might be wrong..

now I am sure you are going to take this as a flame as it is not what you want me to say.. so be it.. I am getting tired of trying to be political with pigheadedness and such.

Originally Posted by rcipema

I am sorry for not providing enough information. There is no way you could have known that YES the tank was new, but the contents were not. The contents were everything out of my 10 gallon nano, with a number of gallons of water out of the 50. In other words it could be called an existing tank with the addition of some substrate.

Hmm so then in your words my tank is now 3 years and 8 months old...

Steve

Oh PS.. the spellign mistakes in this one were intentional.. 8)

[Bob I]

Originally Posted by christyf5

Well at least the Calgary forum has better entertainment value (for now anyway) :P

We do our best to keep you entertained. We pride ourselves in having a sense of humour.