Good live rock

[jslaney]

Wow! Thanks for the great replies. Untamed I cannot believe the amount of life on your live rock. I am really happy as I am trying to set up my tank as sustainably as possible, (which when you think about it is kind of a joke). To get sustainable live rock and all that life is worth the extra price.

Thanks for the DIY links as well. Maybe when I get a bit more experience I will try that. Ideally I really want all the macro life rather then just the bacteria and algae though.

I am located in Calgary so I really hope TBS ships up to Canada. I will look into that.

Anyway thanks for the good ideas and responses.

Jonathan.

[howdy20012002]

u will need to get a CITES permit for the LR.
Actually the company that you are buying from will have to get it and it takes at leat a month to get it done.
so if you are looking for something immediate, it won't work from a US supplier.
HTH
Neal

[howdy20012002]

Actually looking at the webstie of TBS, they don't ship to canada.

[justinl]

yeah i belive untamed actually went down into the states to pick up the rock himself.

dave, thx for finding the aragocrete link for me

[woodcarver]

No prob

.................Dave

[BCOrchidGuy]

I buy live rock from the LFS, sometimes cured sometimes uncured. I prefer to get it right out of the box, that way I'm getting as much of the "stuff" as I can. Good live rock should be porous, you can get very dense rock or very open lightweight rock. I've got sponge, some sort of what looks like a pink encrusting tunicate, pods of all shapes and sizes, unique species of coraline algae, different types of tube worms, polyps etc on my rock. I've also got two odd looking creatures that so far seem to be harmless, they seem to just clean rock so I'm not to worried about them but I have no idea what they are. They only come out and night, they look like snails with out a shell but they have a blackish bulge where a shell would be. Maybe a flat worm of some sort I don't know, maybe about 3/8 of an inch long... who knows. Even when it's shipped in wet newspaper a lot of stuff is still alive, the homemade rock is great as you can make different shapes and sizes to fit your needs however, it doesn't add diversity of livestock where rock does. If you can get rock from Jakarta, some from Tonga and some from somewhere else, get a mix, you get a larger diversity of life, base rock is nice and cheap, you can use concrete drill bits to cut holes in it and zap strap it together to make shapes if you like and it's cheap and you don't have to wait for it to cure.

Doug

[fishytime]

Check out Red Coral in Calgary. He has some really nice Haitian and another one I cant remember the name of. Its a little pricey though.

[bsyoun]

I just got some of Red Coral's Miyaki live rock a couple of weeks ago. They are a bit on the expensive side, but they're quite porous. If you want 'lively' live rock, his isn't too bad. I've found two zoos and a tiny featherduster worm on the 12 lbs I bought from him.

Here's a link to his rocks...

http://www.redcoralaquarium.com/Live...aki/Miyaki.htm

Ben

[Zylumn]

I bought a little of that live miyaki rock from red coral and was blown away with how live it is. It is pricey but would work as a great seed for base rock or diy rock.
my .02
kevin

[howdy20012002]

Even by driving down, nothing is guaranteed.
"Legally" you still would require the CITES when you arrive at the border.
However, most customs people aren't aware of what is required when it comes to this type of stuff.
If you just showed up and said oh yea, I picked up some rock for my tank, they probably wouldn't say anything....Probably is the key word.
For something like this, ignorance is sometimes bliss. I know that I came across the border last year with a couple of hundred lbs of LR without any problems. At that time, I didnt' know that CITES was required. Neither did the customs, because I did declare the LR at the border. All they were concerned with was the GST on the total amount.