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03-27-2007, 07:58 PM
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ok Justin......you made it sound totally mean.........I was in no way saying anything is wrong with being a vegetarian....I'm just trying to understand it...or how you get to the being a vegetarian....the ethical question is really the part I was and am still having a problem with understanding....maybe its my thick skull...dunno....
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03-27-2007, 08:32 PM
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Veal is made by trapping a baby cow so that it cannot lose its baby fat. It's then killed. Making cows "Kosher" will have a Rabbi come and cut the jugular vein of the cow, bleeding it out. Chickens that are not free range are stuffed into boxes BARELY big enough for them to fit into. they're forced to produce endlessly and usually have no feathers due to stress. Cows that are milked are also forced to stay pregnant, as that's the only way they produce milk. Cows used for food are killed generally by being electrocuted or as Justin said, having their head bashed in after having a rather crappy life beforehand. You're also getting animals pumped full of hormones and other things that will artificially make them taste better. Going organic generally sees better treatment of animals, but they still have to be killed in order to eat. The way I see it is more the buddhist perspective. I don't need to end the life of anything in order to fill my tummy. End of story  But I think this is getting a SMIDGE off track, we can discuss it in another thread, but for now - Drew just needs some suggestions of things he can eat!
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03-27-2007, 08:54 PM
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oh Justin....I just read your thread and mine again...and when I said you made it sound totally mean was in respect to the treatment of the cow.... I wasnt meaning that I thought your comment was mean.....and yes....back to the topic of what Drew can eat.....
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03-27-2007, 09:26 PM
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it's okay BC, simple misunderstanding. and yes, the treatment of farm animals is generally mean.
as to what drew can eat... well are you being vegetarian (eggs, dairy, fish are allowed) or vegan (the "hardcores" lol)?
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03-27-2007, 10:30 PM
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As for the different types, there's... well, a LOT. Check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian#Main_varieties If you want to go to a huge extent, there's Fruitarians that basically only eat what falls off of trees or is harvested *AFTER* the fruit/nut/vegetable has been released from its source. Now THAT is hardcore! 
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03-27-2007, 11:11 PM
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well thanks for letting me ask lots of questions....but really this is all just personal choice....and all walks of life have their own opinions as to what they eat and even how its prepared......some people feel guilty from very simple things and some people have no conscience about brutal things....but I think being raised on a farm....and an alberta farm growing your own animals for food or whatever.....does make you think differently.....its like raising your own 4H calf and keeping him groomed and well fed so that after your project is over you can take him to the auction to be sold. The kids get so used to it....and its really for the best meat....anyways...im rambling now
i just always thought that people chose to be vegetarian because of health reasons....never gave it any thought as to ethics or what is immoral...
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03-27-2007, 11:33 PM
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Hey guys. Wow, and THANKS! I never expected such a response. It IS encouraging to see so many people doing this and enjoying the benefits of it.
I'll answer a few questions. First, BC564, go watch this video. It's not how all animals are treated, but it seems to be quite common. Personally, I just can't support that. BUT...it is a personal choice, and I don't blame anyone for deciding to eat meat. My family owns a huge dairy/cattle farm up near Stoney Plain, sooo....  I'm definitely not plunging into the Vegan thing. That's way too hardcore for me. First of all, I'd have to throw away all of my shoes and half my jackets. LOL. I enjoy cheese WAY too much. I will, however, only buy "free range" eggs....somehow that will ease my conscience a little bit?....maybe? I'm also going to visit the Farmer's Market this weekend and see what it has to offer. We shall see. The jury's out on fish still. I'd love to be able to eat fish. I'll have to do some more research. So again, thanks everyone. Keep 'em coming if you have something to say!
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