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Old 10-13-2006, 06:17 PM
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some inverters don't put out a true sine wave AC signal. This can cause issues with some electronic equipment. I have some portable flash units for my camera and I looked in to running these off of an inverter but I would have had to purchase a more expensive inverter to avoid equipment dammage.

This is true but the units in question are do put out a true sine wave.
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Old 10-13-2006, 11:52 PM
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Fortunately i left my Oscilloscope back in University but on the spec sheet you will see several references to its sine wave characteristics and quality of output

output voltage distortion = < 5% full load
crest factor = up to 5:1

one often overlooked feature of a UPS is its ability to sheild equipment from surges not sure how that relates to aquarium equipment but why not protect it its worth more than most compys

Now for an update i was only able to get 4... 4... only 4... and one of them is a 1250model i was ****ed the dude told me he would hold them for me but what can you do anyways i can get a ton of POWERWARE PRESTIGE model UPS's. They are a quality brand name but i cant find the spec sheet for them yet. They were used for the same purpose as the APCs and the voltages are the same however there are 6 batteries in them rather than 2 like the APC dont know how that will affect the pricing. I am waiting for a call from a distributor about the batteries. Next week i will really get on there case as i am out of pocket on these 4 as it is...

Man with those last few posts this is turning into a tech forumn not a reef forum shall we discuss Light Emitting Diodes too, i just found a wicked easy circuit to wire up moonlights to 120VAC.

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Old 11-03-2006, 01:23 PM
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Now for an update i was only able to get 4... 4... only 4...

Ken

looks like about 4 were forsures....

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Old 11-27-2006, 04:22 AM
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I just put new batteries in a UPS that is rated for 240Watts and tried running my Seio powerhead off of it today (with all of the snow) and had issues. As soon as the UPS went from line power to battery power, I could hear the rotor clanking around so I immediately turned it off. I can't remember but I think I have tried running my recirc pump on a UPS before and had trouble.

I'll have to play around with it because I'd love to have the tank backed up.

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We have tried a UPS on both Fluvals and Eheims and discovered the Eheim coped well but the Fluval wouldn’t keep going. Something to do with the motor design and the fact that the power from the UPS is not an exact replica of true mains voltage, which is a sinewave shape.
This quote is from http://www.fnzas.org.nz/articles/technical/ups/. Looks like other people have tried this and had trouble. I have also read that AC motors run hotter with modified sine waves. Not sure how good this would be for the pumps...

Then again, you hear of lots of people using generators to power aquarium equipment during power outages. Generators create the same kind of modified sine wave that inverters do. I guess I need someone that uses a UPS for this purpose to come out and settle this.

I just plugged the minijet 606 in my girlfriend's 6 gal nano into my UPS and it is working fine running on battery power... mind you it is only 6 watts.
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:28 AM
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That's exactly the kind of thing that I was originally concerned about.
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:44 AM
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buy three or four car batteries, a power inverter an your set
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:48 PM
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Actualy, generators are getting pretty darned good. Especialy the Honda EU series. They generate a pretty pure sinewave.

So far with my Power Packs from Canadian Tire, I've never had an issue with a pump. And as far as I am aware, the Power packs produce more of a square wave pattern than what is seen with a regular AC. I will take it to work and test it on our Oscilloscope.
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I just put new batteries in a UPS that is rated for 240Watts and tried running my Seio powerhead off of it today (with all of the snow) and had issues. As soon as the UPS went from line power to battery power, I could hear the rotor clanking around so I immediately turned it off. I can't remember but I think I have tried running my recirc pump on a UPS before and had trouble.
I tried out my 350Watt APC and it ran a 403 powerhead with no problem. It did clank around a bit at first but it was the same sound i hear whenever i turn it off then back on. What brand of UPS is it ? you should check out a spec sheet online look for sine wave distortion and similar specs higher quality units should produce an excellent sine wave.
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