Whoa holy cloudy water batman

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Beverly

Remove the rock to water that is known to be safe. Make sure the new water is close to the same temp as the tank. Aerate the heck out of the new water and keep it aerated the entire time the rock is in the new water. Yes, also keep a heater in with the rock. You want to keep the water as close to tank temps as possible.

I'm thinking about what may have caused the sad meltdown of your tank:

1. You did not use a dechlorinator and livestock, including LR, are dying because of the chlorine.

2. The new saltwater you used had not been properly aerated (at least for a couple of hours, overnight is better) and heated, and the shock of the vastly different temps, pH, and other gases in the tapwater were enough to begin a cascade of dying organisms.

Whatever happened, it's a terrible shame to lose so much livestock all at once like this

yep basically whole tank is pooft....
i always add dechlorinator...i usually use a little more prime than i should...i'm paranoid...

i dunno....starting over basically....just mixed some new salt put it in tank, hopefully bacteria in the filters is ok, otherwise when i put liverock back in it's going to cycle over again....

hmm...

[Pan]

Originally Posted by howdy20012002

hey everyone
just thought i would add a good note
the clowns appear to be doing fine in my invert tank
weird though, when i started adding my tank water to the bag of water they came in to acclimatize, the water became less cloudy and material started to solidify
i dunno what this means..
i don't think that salt would start to solidify again..
unless
wait..what is ur salt content? maybe ur Hydrometer is out..
how much salt are u putting in per gallon?
Shoot..should've tested the water with my refractometer before dumping it?
maybe that has something to do with it..
maybe way too salty?
i dunno..
Hopefully my salt will work for ya
way too weird

i dunno if my hydrometer is out, i assume no...i make the water to beabout 1.024-025, lfs tested with refract a month ago and it was a little off but not much, maybe is the high alk content....or maybe my calcium test is buggered and the purple up i added was too much...i tried best as i could to keep it in the 400-430 range....hopefully those little clowns will be happy for awhile..
Thanks again neal....mucho mucho thanks

On another note my father said he would help me with a new tank purchase later in april so thats some good news...plus i am going to stock up on more essentials before i start....amazing how quick your stock depletes in an emergency...especially that damn prime....
I stirred up the sand bed a HUGE ammount when i did new water....but ammonia only reads just above zero or so....i have all the other water with the liverock in it....best i could do....hopefully this is going to work out...have a feeling those clowns with be with you neal for a good 6 weeks or more
hope that is okay...maybe the tank will cycle again/if it has tooo...by the next meet I'm buying the pizza for everyone...most assuredly.

[Murminator]

Don't mean to rude but I gotta ask
You did use reef salt and not table salt right?

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Murminator

Don't mean to rude but I gotta ask
You did use reef salt and not table salt right?

no i used kosher salt.....

yes i used reef salt....instant ocean..

[TheReefGeek]

Glad to hear some of your stuff will make it, and you are sticking with the hobby! A few months back I lost all my fish but 1, and 3/4 of my corals due to instant ocean's bad batch of salt, but mine was never cloudy. Most LFS took instant ocean off their shelves for a couple months. Apparantly they changed ownership or something and tried to cut costs, I dont know the whole story, just that I lost couple grand of stuff, and my tank is just starting to come back now. So I know what it feels like.

When you are ready, I have a colt, kenya tree, xenia, and by then maybe some zoos and green star polyps for you to restart your tank with, just PM me.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by TheReefGeek

Glad to hear some of your stuff will make it, and you are sticking with the hobby! A few months back I lost all my fish but 1, and 3/4 of my corals due to instant ocean's bad batch of salt, but mine was never cloudy. Most LFS took instant ocean off their shelves for a couple months. Apparantly they changed ownership or something and tried to cut costs, I dont know the whole story, just that I lost couple grand of stuff, and my tank is just starting to come back now. So I know what it feels like.

When you are ready, I have a colt, kenya tree, xenia, and by then maybe some zoos and green star polyps for you to restart your tank with, just PM me.

Looks like the only thing that will make it now is maybe my electric blue hermit and 1 snail...the other 6 died, the emerald died...mushrooms are toast and i dunno about the xenia....i did about a 95 percent water change, and the water is still cloudy, mind you that could just be from stirring up the aragonite...i put the live rock back in and all...guess we will see...even if it doesn't make it...i have base rock for the bigger tank unless it is somehow contamintaed or something.....even with the new water alk tested way way high...so i dunno

hopefully my clows will be ok at neals...they are probably thanking him and cursing me off ...

[TheReefGeek]

Bring some of your water in to the LFS and have them test everything for you, they do it for free.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by TheReefGeek

Bring some of your water in to the LFS and have them test everything for you, they do it for free.

Have to wait until thursday now, I have class or work until then....damn

Still cloudy though and alkalinity is way high even with new water...so i'm thinking something was in the substrate? I used different salt tested it and the alk of the tap water both were fine, until put into the tank....so i have to fidure out how to lower the alkalinity....

[Pan]

What is the best way to lower alkalinity? That seems to be the only thing i can think of that is wrong....found another dead bristle worm....so something is killing them ....

[seashells]

Originally Posted by Subdued

Since i am not allowed to install a Ro/DI unit in my apartment, is there anywhere in edmonton where i can buy bulk distilled water? i don't want to haul 5 gallon jugs from the damn grocery store
Also if there was a problem using tap water wouldn't it have shown up early, not after 4 months?

Here is a tapwater filter you can attach to your sink faucet. Works very well. Here is the link http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/s...ct_ID=ro-aptwp

Hope this helps.

Doug