Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > DIY

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-21-2013, 02:40 AM
gregzz4's Avatar
gregzz4 gregzz4 is offline
On Hiatus
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Burnaby, B.C.
Posts: 4,890
gregzz4 will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff000 View Post
Doesn't make sense, a 1/4" 6*6 steel plate would be just as or less effective than the wood he has under.
How would it be less effective ? We're talking about point loading here
Steve and Myka pretty much covered what I was pointing out
Point loading the concrete floor will break it
By placing a larger foot of something that won't break under the load, you're spreading the weight out over a larger area, thus putting less stress on a smaller area of the concrete
And ya, the wood he has there under the post will collapse under load
Have you ever hammered any soft wood ? It compresses very easily
His wood will compress and/or split
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-21-2013, 04:53 PM
Jeff000 Jeff000 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 217
Jeff000 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaticFinatic View Post
Thanks. 2x10 old house from the 70's solid wood. Yes 10' from wall to main load support beam. So ill basically leave it as is then?? I'm happy with it I think and I shouldn't have any bounce with it like it is. Thanks

Ya it's not going anywhere. A 10' span is nothing, and your concrete has had a long time to get hard, it's not going anywhere either.

What you have is way overkill. The house itself would hold the weight just fine.
__________________
-My 330g build thread
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-21-2013, 05:20 PM
Myka's Avatar
Myka Myka is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Saskatoon, SK.
Posts: 11,268
Myka will become famous soon enough
Default

What material is the finished floor under the tank? As long as it's not tile, it's ok if the floor flexes a bit. It is also important to note that if the floor flexes too much and the stand also flexes too much the tank could break long before the floor would fail. Make sure the stand is well designed too. Personally, I would keep the jack posts simply because the tank is running parallel to the joists. if you do decide to remove the jack posts, at least add blocking between the joists under the tank and a couple joists beyond the edges of the tank to help with deflection.

Here's a great article written by a structural engineer (since 1976). Residential Wood Framed Floors and Aquarium Weights

His Conclusion: "Aquariums up to 55 gallons can be placed almost anywhere without much worry at all. Many tanks larger than 55 gallons and no more than 125 gallons will be okay, if they are placed in a good structural location and your floor framing is free from significant defects. For example, a 125 gallon tank, on a wooden stand, placed perpendicular to the joists up against a bearing wall, will often be okay without any additional structural support. If your tank is over 125 gallons, then it is likely that you should consider adding supports under your wood framed floor. Please realize that these are generalities that may or may not apply to your particular situation."
__________________
~ Mindy

SPS fanatic.


Last edited by Myka; 07-21-2013 at 05:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-11-2013, 03:37 PM
Jeff000 Jeff000 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 217
Jeff000 is on a distinguished road
Default

This is wood blocking that really shows no signs of compression after 3 years holding 45,000 gallons of diesel fuel.


The weather has curled the edges up a bit, but it's fine.
They are sitting on top of swamp mats, which are sitting on muskeg. Even the mats have hardly any deflection in them.


Each of the 4 corners of all these tanks look like the above photo. They are all 100 barrel tanks.


I know this thread is beat to death. But just for future reference.
__________________
-My 330g build thread
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.