Scott's 135 gallon display tank build

[WarDog]

Nice looking build! If I may make an observation, I don't see a valve on your Herbie.

[Gp Scott]

Originally Posted by WarDog

Nice looking build! If I may make an observation, I don't see a valve on your Herbie.

Not sure what you mean about a valve on the herbie ? But this is what I put on the main drain it's a dorso water flows thru 90 into T with a cap and hole in it so I always have air after water I could also put a valve on top too to regulate the air. The other pipe is emergency. I would never put a valve on a drain.

[mihaivapler]

To be able to have a quite herbie overflow you need a valve to be able to cut down the flow so it is quite.it has to be installed on the main drain just under your union.

[WarDog]

Originally Posted by mihaivapler

To be able to have a quite herbie overflow you need a valve to be able to cut down the flow so it is quite.it has to be installed on the main drain just under your union.

Yeah, what mihaivapler said! Personally I would recommend the valve just above the sump, this enables you to run full siphon the entire length of the pipe. Only the short section of pipe after the valve will have any air in it (which makes all the noise). Also this increases your overall water volume. A properly tuned Herbie is silent.

------> http://gmacreef.com/herbie-overflow-...method-basics/

[mihaivapler]

i have it the same,just before flows in the sump,but in his case having the sump in the basement it will be very hard to adjust it..and must be a gate valve,the regular valve it is very hard to adjust..you can see in the picture,the left pipe is the emergence and the right one is the main drain whit a 1" gate valveAttachment 13077

[Gp Scott]

Originally Posted by mihaivapler

i have it the same,just before flows in the sump,but in his case having the sump in the basement it will be very hard to adjust it..and must be a gate valve,the regular valve it is very hard to adjust..you can see in the picture,the left pipe is the emergence and the right one is the main drain whit a 1" gate valveAttachment 13077

I'm sorry I'm still not understanding Y I would put a valve there when I could adjust the flow going in and out by the valves going into the tank from pump and the dorso makes the water flow smoothly by putting air behind water like the pluming in your house. My line doesn't free fall into sump so the only air it gets is from the dorso it was air locking before I put it on. I may be wrong but in my theory putting a valve there is asking for trouble plugging easy because your restricting the flow.

The line on the left is emergency

[mihaivapler]

by adjusting the valve from to pump is not the best idea.it just put extra pressure on the pump which will cause premature wear f the pump..
the herbie style is absolute quite,dead silent, and if is done correctly it is 100% safe.you need to have the emergence drain which you have.i have this system on all my systems and never had an issue,in case you have a snail trapped in the valve the emergence drain will carry the water..i have this system for 2 years and never had it clogged.and the other advantage over the dorso pipe is that you have 0 air going in the drain ,whit the dorso you have some noise from the air being sucked in the pipe..and because you have the sump in the basement it will be no noise from the pumps and skimmer..this is just my opinion.

[Gp Scott]

Originally Posted by WarDog

Yeah, what mihaivapler said! Personally I would recommend the valve just above the sump, this enables you to run full siphon the entire length of the pipe. Only the short section of pipe after the valve will have any air in it (which makes all the noise). Also this increases your overall water volume. A properly tuned Herbie is silent.

------> http://gmacreef.com/herbie-overflow-...method-basics/

I just noticed the link you posted that clears it all up for me I think I will try the valve when I get water back into the tank. But I think I should try and put it in the basement at sump just so my kids don't mess with it. It might be tough to tune in because my pump is T of to refuge and any extras.

[WarDog]

Herbie's can run just fine with tee's on the return line. It will just require a little extra tuning on your drain valve as you turn your 'extras' on.

Keep the pics coming!

[Gp Scott]

This is a pic of the tank during water test. I left water in it for almost a week to see if there was any settling that would cause my drywall and mud to crack. And it never moved one bit so I finished with the mud and paint. I also put up my lights.