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Old 08-29-2015, 05:15 AM
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Hello All,

First post here.You seem like a friendly bunch, unlike some other forums.

I will be assembling the component parts for a 250 gallon deep dimension reef tank mostly softies at least to start until I get my skill set up.

First things first. Water! RODI for sure!
I know this is a highly variable question but what would a starting point for % of saltwater to be changed and at what intervals?

Second what would the recommended size of the water change tanks be? Within reason I mean. I would love to have 200 gal storage tanks but they wont fit. What would the minimum sizes be for these vessels so that water changes are not going to be a pain in the $ss? Should one be larger than the other?
Third question related to the previous two is it feasible to place this station in my unheated Ontario dead of winter garage, even with heaters in the tanks with flow? Im guessing no , but you never know.
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I would aim for 25-50% every 2 weeks. Others might suggest a smaller amount every week, but I find that too much work. Personally I do 25% every other Saturday, mixing and aerating the night before. This works well for what I've got.

As far as the Ontario winters and mixing outside, I wouldn't have a clue, never been there. Here in BC, zero is considered low in winter.
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I guess water change size dictates water mixing station size huh?
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Hey there. I think there are some water change stations within various tank builds on the forum (keins, dez, "project mayhem" that I can think of). I like to keep enough water mixed for a 25% water change at all times
(then again my water changing station is a brute bin on wheels lol), but I know that some like to keep up to a 50% supply which for some large tanks makes logistics hard.

As far as the winter thing- I'm sure that if you keep the water circulating in the tanks you wont have a problem (even with RODI unless it gets very cold) but the lines to and from the tanks would be another matter. It might end up being better to look at heating the garage to keep it just above freezing.
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My water change system was brutes on wheels before my new setup I'd recommend ~25g every couple weeks. That would be ~20% per month. That's plenty as long as you have good, skimming and don't overfeed. Plus you will get a feel for it as the tank matures and you can tailor your setup to match. Maybe you'd rather do water changes than heavily dosing your system with chemicals, then you will require more water changes on a heavy stocked reef system. If you don't mind dosing the required chemicals and have good nutrient export through either skimming, algae turf scrubber, bio-pellets, etc. then you can really stretch out the required water changes. The triton method of testing suggests never changing your water again unless you can't export the nutrients and adding the chemicals and trace elements the inhabitants are consuming.

As for the garage idea, sounds iffy. You may be wasting a lot of power just trying to keep the water warm enough. No room under the stairs or in a closet in the house?
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Think long and hard about HOW you are going to do water changes. Plumb pumps, drains and valves into the plan so that you have to move water anywhere by hand or by siphon. Long term...if it is difficult, you won't do it.

Municipal water pressure is free. Use that pressure to store your RODI water high so gravity can deliver it where you want later. (Including into your SW mixer). Have a convenient way to dump a measured amount of your aquarium water so you can replace it with fresh mixed.
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