Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > Reef

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-21-2009, 07:12 PM
likwid likwid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lethbridge
Posts: 323
likwid is on a distinguished road
Default Changing live sand

Hey guys,

I have a 28 NanoCube HQI that has been set up for about 8 months now. Everything is going great and I have never had any problems with algae or anything. The only mistake I made was using crushed coral as my substrate. I would like to replace this with a very fine white live sand. How hard would this be to do, what is the best way to do it, and what are the repercussions of swapping out substrate?

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-21-2009, 10:07 PM
Myka's Avatar
Myka Myka is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Saskatoon, SK.
Posts: 11,268
Myka will become famous soon enough
Default

Crushed coral is a bit harder to swap out than sand, but it's doable. By chance, is it fine enough that you can siphon it out? If so, you are lucky, and you can simply just siphon out a 1/8th section of the cc. If not, then what you need to do is turn off all the pumps and use a gravel vacuum and clean a 1/8th section of the cc really well. Then use some sort of scoop (I would use a noodle scoop with holes in it so the water will drain) to scoop out the section that you cleaned really well. Then use a scoop (with no holes) to gently lower the sand to the bottom, and gently pour each scoop into the area where you took the cc out. Move really slowly when you are scooping out and scooping in to disturb as little as possible, but your tank will definately be cloudy. Your tank may remain cloudy for the entire time it takes to swap over, and maybe even a week after that. Turn the skimmer back on as soon as you are done, but wait a couple hours before you turn the powerheads back on. Do 1/8th of the cc twice per week so that it will take 4 weeks to complete. If you do it too fast your tank will spike ammonia and crash.
__________________
~ Mindy

SPS fanatic.


Last edited by Myka; 02-21-2009 at 10:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-22-2009, 12:54 AM
likwid likwid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lethbridge
Posts: 323
likwid is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks Myka. I only have about an inch of substrate in most areas. Could I just syphon out the sand and leave about 1/4" and then just put the new sand on top, using the technique you described?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-22-2009, 01:24 AM
chandigz chandigz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: nanaimo bc
Posts: 257
chandigz is on a distinguished road
Default

Rather than leaving a 1/4 " of crushed coral and covering it, it would be better to do a section at a time. That way you are less likely to start a new cycle. If you do it this way, the old crushed coral will help seed your new sand. If you cover the crushed coral you will kill anything benifitial on it. You will also find that the crushed coral will work its way to the surface of the sand over time. I find that most bagged live sand is fairly clean and doesn't cloud the water to much if added carefully. I use a cylander like a gravel vac, fill it with sand and lower it into the water with my hand over the bottom and then let it slowly slide out the tube. good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-22-2009, 02:50 AM
likwid likwid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lethbridge
Posts: 323
likwid is on a distinguished road
Default

I should have mentioned this before, but I plan on leaving about 40% of the current substrate in the tank. All of the substrate under and close to the live rock will remain. My rock is all piled up in the back-center of my tank, so I would be replacing the entire amount of substrate in the front of the tank and the sides. By doing it this way, am I able to take out larger portions at a time each week?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-22-2009, 02:40 PM
Myka's Avatar
Myka Myka is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Saskatoon, SK.
Posts: 11,268
Myka will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid View Post
I should have mentioned this before, but I plan on leaving about 40% of the current substrate in the tank. All of the substrate under and close to the live rock will remain. My rock is all piled up in the back-center of my tank, so I would be replacing the entire amount of substrate in the front of the tank and the sides. By doing it this way, am I able to take out larger portions at a time each week?
Not unless you want to risk a tank crash. Why do you not want to change all your substrate? The less cc the better.
__________________
~ Mindy

SPS fanatic.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-22-2009, 03:08 PM
fishytime's Avatar
fishytime fishytime is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: E-town
Posts: 5,390
fishytime will become famous soon enough
Default

If you leave the cc in, the finer sand will likely just settle through the cc.
__________________
260g mixed reef, 105g sump, water blaster 7000 return, Bubble King SM 300 skimmer, Aqua Controller Jr, 4 radions, 3 Tunze 6055s,1 tunze 6065, 2 Vortech MP40s, Vortech MP20, Tunze ATO, GHL SA2 doser, 2 TLF reactors (1 carbon, 1 rowa). http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50034 . Tank Video here http://www.vimeo.com/2304609 and here http://www.vimeo.com/16591694
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-22-2009, 03:46 PM
Sam1969 Sam1969 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 73
Sam1969 is on a distinguished road
Default

To put the sand in your tank, I use a piece of 4" pvc pipe a little longer than the depth of your tank so the end is just above the water. By placing one end on the bottom glass and the other out of the water, you can then use a measuring cup to dump sand into the pipe and let it settle to the bottom without clouding your water.
__________________
Starting fresh ... 90 gal, 40gal sump, sundial T5HO x 4, 2 x koralia 2's, ASM G1X skimmer
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-22-2009, 03:56 PM
Nihoa's Avatar
Nihoa Nihoa is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: East Coast
Posts: 53
Nihoa is on a distinguished road
Default

im going through the same thing and got some advice on this thread: http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49335
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-22-2009, 10:52 PM
likwid likwid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lethbridge
Posts: 323
likwid is on a distinguished road
Default

So I tried to siphon out the crushed coral, but my tube is not big enough to get it out, as it plugs up within seconds. I tried to scoop it out as well, but it just causes a huge cloud storm. Anyone know where I can get a rubber tube that is around 2 inches in diameter that I can use as a siphon? Can't be PVC or anything hard, as it must be able to bend out of my tank and into my bucket.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.