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Old 07-29-2014, 03:26 AM
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So im holding some good live rock for my new build. Lots of life etc. 2 tanks with a powerhead, a heater and a small HOB filter.

Today I went to touch the water (as I always do to make sure that my thermometers are accurate). And it felt like someone punched me in the chest! Got it bad enough to knock me on my a$$.

So im thinking heaters, as these are the common culperits. Im kind of scared to test my theory though. Dont really want to replace the heater and try it again lol. How do I test for voltage without killing myself?

And the big question...now that I know this is happening....is everything dead in the rock now? Or would the current not harm bacteria etc?. I havent gone back out to look for pods etc.
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:37 AM
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I use a Fluke pen to test for A/C voltage on wires. It looks like an a fat plastic pen that just needs to be close to the current and then lights up if there is power there. I haven't tried it in water though and without purposely adding electricity to my tank I can't say for sure if it works. They are cheap and other companies besides Fluke make them. They come in handy for wall receptacles, testing extension cords, etc. If you know any electricians they would be likely to have one to try.
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:57 AM
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I would get a grounding probe. They are fairly cheap.
I had a similar problem turns out it was my skimmer pump cord. It was wearing.
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Old 07-29-2014, 04:28 AM
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Get a cheap multi meter, stick the black end into the earth pole on a three prong plug, put the other end in the tank. Get a helper to unplug things one at a time, when the voltage drops to zero the last item unplugged is the culprit. Good luck.

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When a heater went bad in my display I had the same shocking experience, I didn't notice any damage to the livestock in the tank. The fish were a bit skittish, but no harm done. The fish that were in there are still in there after about 2 years.

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Old 07-29-2014, 04:44 AM
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holy frak! Glad to hear you're ok! Would hate for you to have yet another excuse not to finish your build.

All kidding aside, keeps us updated on what you find! You've got me scared to put my hand in my tank now!
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Get a cheap multi meter, stick the black end into the earth pole on a three prong plug, put the other end in the tank. Get a helper to unplug things one at a time, when the voltage drops to zero the last item unplugged is the culprit. Good luck.

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When a heater went bad in my display I had the same shocking experience, I didn't notice any damage to the livestock in the tank. The fish were a bit skittish, but no harm done. The fish that were in there are still in there after about 2 years.
Just saw this post. I will definitely try this, as I do have a multi-meter at home.

One question though, should I ground it on the socket end of the power bar in the ground prong position?
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:09 PM
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using a gfi?
No GFCI on this one, as it's in my garage. I'm just using a powerbar, which if I remember correctly has a GFCI-like device in it, becuase it has popped on me before. However.... it didn't pop this time lol.


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I would get a grounding probe. They are fairly cheap.
I had a similar problem turns out it was my skimmer pump cord. It was wearing.
Would a grounding probe saved me from getting zapped?
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Old 07-29-2014, 08:59 PM
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After saying the voltage won't ever say zero.. I tested my tank today and I got zero...

I just got a new skimmer so I think my old skimmer pump was putting out 10v in the water. New skimmer apparently drops nothing.

I also don't have any power heads in the tank because I have vortechs. The only thing in the water is my heater and skimmer pump.

Glad you found the culprit safely.
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