Swine Flu/H1N1 Vaccination - Yes or No?

[Veng68]

Originally Posted by my2rotties

I am more educated and feel better knowing I read this on my own accord this time. I am so sick and bloody tired of hearing about this stuff on the news and seeing it in all the papers. I am still not going to get the vaccination though. Just standing in line for hours with so many other people is a risk in itself already. I have hand sanitizer in every pocket and use it always. I don't touch anything I don't touch my face and I take immune enhancing supplements and vitamins. I feel this is the best that I can do.

There is so much hype on both sides, I am just going to sit on the fence and try not to watch or touch anything.

But if there was no line would you get it? I know a lot of family practice doctors in BC have it already (well at least my doctor and 5 friends who are doctors). They are probably only giving it to patients who are higher on the list like kids, pregnant women, & people with conditions.

Cheers,
Vic

[my2rotties]

I would not get it... I don't feel that I am a high risk individual and I do not work in the general public. I work out and train at home which is a blessing since I cannot imagine how risky the gym would be at this point. If I still worked out at the gym, or took public transport,I would definitely consider getting the vaccination or if I worked in retail or an office tower I might consider it as well.

However, even with all the input on the subject here in this topic I am still not convinced it is all that people say it is. However this is just my opinion and I am entitled to that.

What I resent is the media ramming this down my throat day in and day out... I don't frown upon people whom choose to get the vaccine, but I don't want to be judged if I choose not to do it myself. I take good care of myself and hope that the time and effort in keeping strong and healthy would pull me through.

Originally Posted by Veng68

But if there was no line would you get it? I know a lot of family practice doctors in BC have it already (well at least my doctor and 5 friends who are doctors). They are probably only giving it to patients who are higher on the list like kids, pregnant women, & people with conditions.

Cheers,
Vic

[Binare]

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, I don't believe in vaccines (for myself) but I do hope everyones takin care of their kids, my 4 year old with epilepsy just spent 6 hours in the hospital with my wife cause she can't sleep, has a fever and can't breath very well... End result is she has h1n1. She's a hard 10 days comin up, not aloud to leave the house and another 2 medications on top of her already 8. My point is kids can't make the choice so put your theories aside and keep your personal feelings in check when it comes to your kids who can't think for themselves in this matter. If a person decides not to vaccine their children becuase an ex porn star and a horrible comedian told you it'll make your child autistic as apposed to now documented proof that this flu can cause death, you got some seriously disturbing issues and are not putting your children first. People need to get their head out of their asses and think... for once. Oh and... My little one did get the vaccine at childrens hospital, just too late.

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by Binare

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, I don't believe in vaccines (for myself) but I do hope everyones takin care of their kids, my 4 year old with epilepsy just spent 6 hours in the hospital with my wife cause she can't sleep, has a fever and can't breath very well... End result is she has h1n1. She's a hard 10 days comin up, not aloud to leave the house and another 2 medications on top of her already 8. My point is kids can't make the choice so put your theories aside and keep your personal feelings in check when it comes to your kids who can't think for themselves in this matter. If a person decides not to vaccine their children becuase an ex porn star and a horrible comedian told you it'll make your child autistic as apposed to now documented proof that this flu can cause death, you got some seriously disturbing issues and are not putting your children first. People need to get their head out of their asses and think... for once. Oh and... My little one did get the vaccine at childrens hospital, just too late.

Sorry to hear about your daughter, I hope she will recover quickly. I don't particularily like getting shots either but I got the vaccine for my kids safety and if they get it then I can suck it up and get it too. My oldest one is terrified of needles so it wasn't a light decision.

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by Veng68

The Raptors, Leafs and Chilliwack Heat also got the H1N1 shots. I bet most sports teams have had it already.

Cheers,
Vic

I don't know how things are in BC but in Alberta they all but ran out of vaccines and they allowed the Flames to jump the que and go ahead of all the high risk people and children. The gov't also paid a private clinic with public tax money to do it so nobody would know. At least one person has already been fired for it.

[jonnytens]

Originally Posted by Binare

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, I don't believe in vaccines (for myself) but I do hope everyones takin care of their kids, my 4 year old with epilepsy just spent 6 hours in the hospital with my wife cause she can't sleep, has a fever and can't breath very well... End result is she has h1n1. She's a hard 10 days comin up, not aloud to leave the house and another 2 medications on top of her already 8. My point is kids can't make the choice so put your theories aside and keep your personal feelings in check when it comes to your kids who can't think for themselves in this matter. If a person decides not to vaccine their children becuase an ex porn star and a horrible comedian told you it'll make your child autistic as apposed to now documented proof that this flu can cause death, you got some seriously disturbing issues and are not putting your children first. People need to get their head out of their asses and think... for once. Oh and... My little one did get the vaccine at childrens hospital, just too late.

well it is might right to not inject my otherwise healthy children with a chemical cocktail that they in my opinion don't need. the media has spun this swine flu epidemic right out of control....everyone thinks they are going to die...you are not. the people who have their heads up their asses are the ones lining up like sheep to get a shot in the arm with a largely untested vaccine and they really don't know why....just because tv said so.

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by jonnytens

well it is might right to not inject my otherwise healthy children with a chemical cocktail that they in my opinion don't need. the media has spun this swine flu epidemic right out of control....everyone thinks they are going to die...you are not. the people who have their heads up their asses are the ones lining up like sheep to get a shot in the arm with a largely untested vaccine and they really don't know why....just because tv said so.

I'm sure that's very comforting to the families who have had their children die of the H1N1 flu already. Baaaa

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

I don't know how things are in BC but in Alberta they all but ran out of vaccines and they allowed the Flames to jump the que and go ahead of all the high risk people and children. The gov't also paid a private clinic with public tax money to do it so nobody would know. At least one person has already been fired for it.

That's not really fair, when the clinic setup for the Flames was done the gov was still in free for all mode, I don't think they realized what was going to happen. The Flames have been pretty up front about this whole thing, they felt having all the players go to a public clinic would have been a circus so they approached AHS. That's a pretty understandable thing IMO. It doesn't make sense to send somebody out to vaccinate 30 guys so they took care of as many people as they could while they were there. The Flames are no more at fault for shortages than anyone else who has already received the vaccination.

The failure here was the way AHS setup the vaccination program from the beginning. Alberta is the only province that failed to prioritize high risk groups, this seriously magnified the problems. When they did decide to setup a schedule they misprinted the age of children allowed access in the first run of the newspaper ads.

It pretty much renders the discussion we are having moot for Albertans. It goes from "will you get the shot" to "can you get the shot".

[Binare]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

I'm sure that's very comforting to the families who have had their children die of the H1N1 flu already. Baaaa

Not to mention comforting to the families who have children who attend the same school.

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by jonnytens

the people who have their heads up their asses are the ones lining up like sheep to get a shot in the arm with a largely untested vaccine and they really don't know why....just because tv said so.

So in spite of the fact that flu shots have been developed in the same way for 30 years and that the adjunct in this vaccine has been used in millions of doses all over Europe for a decade this particular vaccine is "untested". Who's the sheep?