75 gallon crashing

daniella3d · #1 10-09-2013, 02:43 AM

huh...when are you going to start doing quarantine?? It's the only way to avoid what you experienced...already 3 times. amazing.

Removing the sand at this point will be pointless. Using copper to treat ick is like using a bazooka to kill a fly. you get the idea. It will probably kill weak fish as well. Best would be hyposalinity as it is easy on the fish and does not pollute or ruine the liverock. Of course it is not to be used with invertebrate or coral.

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Originally Posted by scott tang

i filed a 125 galon reef tank with 500-1000 bucks in fish scimer canfilter coral live rock the works it crashed 3 times times time one velvet kiled them all .time two ich kiled them all now i have tryed very reef safe and semi safe med on the market at this point i took all the rock the scimmer and the corals out and re stalked it ich whiped them out again and now the tank is freash water with no problems

the corals are curently in a 29 galon led bio cube no scimmer no sump reactors just the rock coral and fish and some bio cem stars they have got ich(the three fish) and got over it wit out a problem 4 times now

after looking at the set ups and what difers was how clean my reef is and how dirty my old tank used to be also my reef has a crazy thin sand bed where my old tank used to have a 3 inch bed that always got disturbed i have read then ich grows in the sand for the most part i would romove sand for the futcher and remember tokeep the water clean !

Coral Hoarder · #2 10-09-2013, 02:58 AM

im 14 and the year ago when it ahpend the store told me i didnt need qt also i had 8 inch fish and no mony for a qt

Wayne · #3 10-09-2013, 03:09 AM

I wouldn't treat with copper, its going to do more damage then good. Definatly if the ick-x is making things worse stop using it and let your water changes and skimmer pull it out.

If the ich isn't too bad (pic would help) then just soak the food with selcon and garlic and all the fish should be fine. A little ich after the stress of moving tanks is pretty common and should clear up by itself if you have healthy fish.

If you don't have coral you can do a hyposalinity treatment and hopefully that will help clear things up.

Madreefer · #4 10-09-2013, 03:11 AM

Another good product to use for ick is Medic by Polyplab. It's a 10 day treatment and you can double up on the doseage. It's reef safe so will not harm corals.

gregzz4 · #5 10-09-2013, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer

Another good product to use for ick is Medic by Polyplab. It's a 10 day treatment and you can double up on the doseage. It's reef safe so will not harm corals.

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Good luck Mulch whatever you decide to do

Nate · #6 10-09-2013, 03:55 PM

Just a heads up.

You cannot use ichX if you have been using prime water conditioner.

It results in a rapid and drastic drop in the available oxygen (IIRC) resulting in a crash.

Do lots of water changes.
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Both are good products, but cannot be used together.

Magickiwi · #7 10-09-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate

Just a heads up.

You cannot use ichX if you have been using prime water conditioner.

It results in a rapid and drastic drop in the available oxygen (IIRC) resulting in a crash.

Do lots of water changes.
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Both are good products, but cannot be used together.

I hadn't heard that. Do you have a link??

Good luck with the tank, a crash is something we all fear.

michika · #8 10-09-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by scott tang

im 14 and the year ago when it ahpend the store told me i didnt need qt also i had 8 inch fish and no mony for a qt

I'm so sorry to hear this. I don't want to say that your store is taking advantage of you, but it kind of sounds that way.

As in all things in life, do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Especially when the other party has a vested stake (financial) in your continued business.

Sorry to hear about your losses. Research 'fallow tanks and ich' for timelines on ich's lifecycle for how you can ensure it's been removed from you system completely. Going forwards QT and Hyposalinity would also be my recommendations along with ensuring you're feeding a good robust diet as immuno-response/immune system in your fish play a role in illness/disease. UV can help with some problems, but it's not infallible.

daniella3d · #9 10-09-2013, 11:37 PM

Ok you're 14, with no money for a QT but enough money to fill 1000$ in fish and coral? and lose them 3 times from nasty diseases?? YOu think your LFS Is responsible for this 3 times? You did not learn anything the first time?

Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me! Fool me 3 times? not sure what's going on there...

I am sorry if that sound harsh but you seem to have enough money to buy tons of fish. Why not buy less fish and a smaller aquarium and save some money to take care of them properly, keep them healthy and happy?

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Originally Posted by scott tang

im 14 and the year ago when it ahpend the store told me i didnt need qt also i had 8 inch fish and no mony for a qt

ponokareefer · #10 10-09-2013, 11:57 PM

Canister filters are typically a bad idea on a reef tank unless you clean them bi-weekly. I would personally do without it. Your rock will act as a filter for your tank and the skimmer will do the rest.