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Old 09-05-2014, 10:44 PM
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I would be interested to hear how they intend to identify the various acropora species that are listed.
Depending on the acro's environment, the coral skeleton may develop differently.
An acropora that develops in a lower light, lower water flow environment can have a different skeleton growth pattern than one that develops in a high light, high water flow environment.
Unfortunately it won't matter. The customs/border agent see's a "stick like" coral and holds up the shipment for a CWS agent to come and look at it. By the time CWS gets there to look at it it's like been a couple days and the coral will be dead. The risk to store owners/importers will become too great.
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Also, I believe, this is a US ruling and does not apply to Canada. That said, as most of our corals come through the US....
If the species are successfully added to the CITES Appendices then Environment Canada uses the Canadian Wildlife Services to enforce them. Canada signed on with CITES in 1975.

Now my question is since the NOAA and ERA are american, do they now have to apply to CITES to have the corals upgraded from Appendix II to Appendix I?
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:28 PM
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Unfortunately it won't matter. The customs/border agent see's a "stick like" coral and holds up the shipment for a CWS agent to come and look at it. By the time CWS gets there to look at it it's like been a couple days and the coral will be dead. The risk to store owners/importers will become too great.
Dead is the only way you can accurately identify an acropora anyways.

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....sounds like the inspection process itself will become a hazard to corals.
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Old 09-06-2014, 02:41 AM
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Did anyone who attended macna attend Julian Sprungs presentation? I understand it was on this exact subject? And why all the recent buzz. Apparently his presentation was also one of the least attended. Lol. Go figure.

Couldn't find anything from the presentation besides others writings and responses to it but I did find Sprungs public commentary he submitted to NOAA following the original proposal.

Interesting read anyways.

http://www.reef2rainforest.com/wp-co...AA_letter4.pdf
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:32 PM
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I donated $150.00 to the PIJAC Marine Ornamental Defence Fund. I encourage everyone to donate what they can.

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Default The Reef hobby as we know it is...threatened.

I've been following these latest announcements with a heavy heart to say the least! Personally, I have only recently got into this hobby and now my biggest fears are coming true. The way these events are starting to play out really saddens me. The future of our hobby as a whole will surely be decided soon and with great repercussions you can bet on that!

Here are a few good links:
http://reefbuilders.com/2014/09/12/w...industry-risk/

http://www.mrsaltwatertank.com/repla...d-species-act/

Really informative
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Old 09-13-2014, 12:15 AM
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Another good link:
http://rettalbot.wordpress.com/2014/...-under-attack/

This was taken from one of the comments bellow the article.

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It likely will only aggravate the cause as now the collectors will be forced into other lines of work which typically in small 2nd and 3rd world island nations will be production of charcoal, lime and cement, farming, fishing, etc all of which will have no stake in preservation and accelerate the decline due to run off and waste as well as overuse and damage by drag nets, motors, etc.
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