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Old 03-15-2014, 07:01 PM
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Default Clownfish problem

I guess I have some ich infestation.





Can I resolve this if I get a cleaner shrimp?



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Old 03-15-2014, 07:05 PM
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I think the first plan of attack would be to check out the water quality. Have you done any testing?
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:23 PM
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I'd start pumping the Garlic Extreme to your tank with your feedings if you can quarantine the fish.
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I think the first plan of attack would be to check out the water quality. Have you done any testing?
I have the nitrates are the only one thats 20ppm. I did do water change. It's down to a 10ppm.

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I'd start pumping the Garlic Extreme to your tank with your feedings if you can quarantine the fish.
Okay. Ill go to my lfs.

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Old 03-15-2014, 07:33 PM
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I found a product Hikari Ich-X Saltwater has anyone used this?

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If your clownfish is looking that bad, most treatments will not be effective.

Pumping garlic will do nothing as it has no effect on ich . The only use for garlic is an appetite stimulant.

In my experience, the only effective treatment for ich that you can easily get your hands on is copper.

I bring in tons of clowns and have battled ich almost every shipment (mainly from tangs) and if the body is covered as bad as your clownfish, I rarely can save it.

All aquariums have ich, and its normal to get a few cysts on your fish once in awhile. If a fish is healthy and eating well, then it's own immune response will typically fight it off.

The main cause of ich overunning your tank is if a fish is stressed out and it takes over that fish. When a huge population of ich has formed on a single fish, its basically a breeding ground for it and thats how it "spreads and kills" all your other fish. Its the sudden increase in the ich population in your tank that will wipe out all the fish.

What I suggest you do is take the clown out and quarantine it with copper. If you do not have a quarantine, then I would put it out of it's misery before the cysts spread to your other fish.
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If your clownfish is looking that bad, most treatments will not be effective.

Pumping garlic will do nothing as it has no effect on ich . The only use for garlic is an appetite stimulant.

In my experience, the only effective treatment for ich that you can easily get your hands on is copper.

I bring in tons of clowns and have battled ich almost every shipment (mainly from tangs) and if the body is covered as bad as your clownfish, I rarely can save it.

All aquariums have ich, and its normal to get a few cysts on your fish once in awhile. If a fish is healthy and eating well, then it's own immune response will typically fight it off.

The main cause of ich overunning your tank is if a fish is stressed out and it takes over that fish. When a huge population of ich has formed on a single fish, its basically a breeding ground for it and thats how it "spreads and kills" all your other fish. Its the sudden increase in the ich population in your tank that will wipe out all the fish.

What I suggest you do is take the clown out and quarantine it with copper. If you do not have a quarantine, then I would put it out of it's misery before the cysts spread to your other fish.
I agree i would take the fish out as soon as possible and just hope the rest of the inhabitants don't get ich. You could also try Hyposalinity but if you do it be sure you read tonnes about it first if you PM me i will give you some more details on it. I would also contact "reefwars" as he will help you along with the Hyposalinity, as well as give you tips
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your clown really isnt looking well.

to be honest just about any treatment right now will probably kill the clown , i would feed the crap out of him and then decide to qt, but be prepared to go 50/50 on whether he makes it or not , as mentioned he is in bad shape and looking the way he does his days are numbered.

he needs very little stress so make sure he isnt being picked on and is eating well, if he wont eat like krakken mentioned start on the garlic.

this is a very good reason why qt has to happen to all fish , if qt cant be done then you have to be very diligent on the fish you choose.

when buying clowns try to go tank bred as theres a less chance of a disease as breeders usually have that licked

most of the off the shelf meds are just that , a quick off the shelf hope lol truthfully there are only a few methods that will cure him all of which are a better preventative vs a actual cure when a fish is in rough shape as it always involves removing the fish , acclimating him to qt and then getting through treatment.

i should note that if you do want to treat , all the fish need to be done and the tank has to go fishless for under a dozen weeks.

good luck but not a whole lot of options.
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From the top of my head I remember that I read a research paper stating that hypo had little to no effect on ich. I will cite it once I get back on my computer.
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