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Old 09-11-2014, 05:28 AM
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So today I was playing around with my apex neptune trying to program my jebao wave makers and lights but I'm not finding it very user friendly I thought it was going to be easier but maybe I just need more time with it. I also found the instruction cd manual to be all over the place and having to go back and forth trying to figure things out.
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:43 AM
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As far as jebao control goes I believe the apex is limited to just turning it on and off. The control is done from the controller that you get with the power head.

I believe there is a member (torx I think) that can conjure up a magical cable that gives you control through your apex but you have to have the full apex (not lite or Jr.).

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Stick by it, they are pretty frustrating but you'll get it working in the end.

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Old 09-11-2014, 07:00 AM
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As far as jebao control goes I believe the apex is limited to just turning it on and off. The control is done from the controller that you get with the power head.

I believe there is a member (torx I think) that can conjure up a magical cable that gives you control through your apex but you have to have the full apex (not lite or Jr.).

Hope this helps,
Dunc

Stick by it, they are pretty frustrating but you'll get it working in the end.

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I purchased the cord from torx and have apex neptune with lab grade probs and energy bar 8. Most of the videos on line are old ones. I guess one good thing is I can give someone my password to sort it all out if I have too.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:04 AM
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I purchased the cord from torx and have apex neptune with lab grade probs and energy bar 8. Most of the videos on line are old ones. I guess one good thing is I can give someone my password to sort it all out if I have too.
You'll find with Apex that it can do a lot but you have to keep buying parts to make it do more. Your build is similar to what I'm working on and here is what I've come up with so far. As your base unit is in the basement and your lights and jebao pumps are upstairs you need the VDM module so you have the 0-10v ports to plug Torx's cable into (or you will need to change the cable you have to make the cord reach from upstairs to those ports on your base unit. If you get the VDM module it will need to go upstairs which means you will need to get an aquabus cable long enough to reach from downstairs. You can find a 15' M-M cable pretty easy but my distance is more than that so I'm having Denny order me a 15' M-F aquabus cable also. He hasn't ordered mine yet so if you need one get him to order another one.

For the Radions you will need the WXM module which can connect to the radions wirelessly so you would not need that upstairs. On the forums for Apex, I read a few people having issues with connecting to the apex as apparently Ecotech has to supply the module and the firmware updates to Neptune systems to make it work and Ecotechs reeflink system gets the updates first and then later Neptune systems. The latest update was hoped to solve some of the problems people were having. For that reason I ended up going with the Reeflink system instead.

Programming isn't the easiest but after you do it a bit it gets easier and the manual makes more sense. I have what you have (minus the radions) on my current system and found I needed to use a combination of the manual and the forums to figure things out. There is some program examples for the jebao in the forums but I didn't really like them and have been playing with some of my own settings. I did use that programming as my base though, except I'm changing some of the timing parameters.

If you want to pm me your Apex user name I can let you look at my setup. I'm assuming you managed to get Fusion set up??

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Old 09-11-2014, 08:13 AM
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PS. I haven't tried letting someone else into my apex but I don't think you ever give anyone your password. They sign into their own Fusion account and you set within your system what level access that user name will have.
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You'll find with Apex that it can do a lot but you have to keep buying parts to make it do more. Your build is similar to what I'm working on and here is what I've come up with so far. As your base unit is in the basement and your lights and jebao pumps are upstairs you need the VDM module so you have the 0-10v ports to plug Torx's cable into (or you will need to change the cable you have to make the cord reach from upstairs to those ports on your base unit. If you get the VDM module it will need to go upstairs which means you will need to get an aquabus cable long enough to reach from downstairs. You can find a 15' M-M cable pretty easy but my distance is more than that so I'm having Denny order me a 15' M-F aquabus cable also. He hasn't ordered mine yet so if you need one get him to order another one.

For the Radions you will need the WXM module which can connect to the radions wirelessly so you would not need that upstairs. On the forums for Apex, I read a few people having issues with connecting to the apex as apparently Ecotech has to supply the module and the firmware updates to Neptune systems to make it work and Ecotechs reeflink system gets the updates first and then later Neptune systems. The latest update was hoped to solve some of the problems people were having. For that reason I ended up going with the Reeflink system instead.

Programming isn't the easiest but after you do it a bit it gets easier and the manual makes more sense. I have what you have (minus the radions) on my current system and found I needed to use a combination of the manual and the forums to figure things out. There is some program examples for the jebao in the forums but I didn't really like them and have been playing with some of my own settings. I did use that programming as my base though, except I'm changing some of the timing parameters.

If you want to pm me your Apex user name I can let you look at my setup. I'm assuming you managed to get Fusion set up??
Thank you for the info I guess on my journal I should take more pics and tell people what I got set up. The run from the top of my tank to apex in basement is 20ft. So for the jebao I had torx make the cable 20ft so that's all good. I also have a apex auto feeder and it apparently comes with a 15ft aquabus cord I found that out after I ordered one and then opened the box. But I was still short so I purchased a USB cord from a computer place in town. For my lights I went with the reeflink because everyone said I would have more control with them but I still want my lights plugged into apex power bar so I at least have the high heat off. I do have the apex fusion working I was sitting next to my tank last night on iPad trying to get my wave makers working the way I thought they should and turn them down cause they sound like my phone on vib. But they have a mind of there own I don't no what there doing.
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Old 09-11-2014, 04:40 PM
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I haven't upgraded to Fusion yet so I'm not much help. If you do a quick google search, I am sure there will be a couple links to the Neptune forum. I'll have a look at Fusion and see if my knowledge of the old system might help.
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Old 09-11-2014, 04:47 PM
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I haven't upgraded to Fusion yet so I'm not much help. If you do a quick google search, I am sure there will be a couple links to the Neptune forum. I'll have a look at Fusion and see if my knowledge of the old system might help.
I think I might use this feature to get set up to start . And then after go in and play around with it. I'm loosing focus on this thing.
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Old 09-11-2014, 04:50 PM
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You should message Torx, I believe he was a beta tester and has had Fusion for quite some time.
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