Ideas for LED supplementation - Page 3

Delphinus · #21 10-20-2012, 10:43 PM

I think the problem is that when you're coming from Radiums and in particular Radiums on SonAgro, you get totally spoiled and develop higher expectations!

I can't add anything useful to this discussion other than I'm disappointed to hear this, I was considering giving up on the halides (3 Radiums) because of the heat and humidity and in this shoulder season where it's not cold enough outside to run the HRV, it's putting my house into an awkward spot of excessive humidity. Now I'm thinking I'm just going to start cutting holes in the walls to the outside to increase the ventilation in the tank room and keep the darn Radiums!

Aquattro · #22 10-20-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

I think the problem is that when you're coming from Radiums and in particular Radiums on SonAgro, you get totally spoiled and develop higher expectations!

I can't add anything useful to this discussion other than I'm disappointed to hear this, I was considering giving up on the halides (3 Radiums) because of the heat and humidity and in this shoulder season where it's not cold enough outside to run the HRV, it's putting my house into an awkward spot of excessive humidity. Now I'm thinking I'm just going to start cutting holes in the walls to the outside to increase the ventilation in the tank room and keep the darn Radiums!

I would

BTW, I stopped running the SonAgro ballasts about 8 years ago, just been running e-ballasts. I'm starting to consider how i could vent the tank to get rid of humidity -lol

Delphinus · #23 10-20-2012, 10:49 PM

Oh I thought you were still on SonAgros. I have my middle on SonAgro still but the outside two are regular M137 or whatever they are (I forget now. The proper pulse-start ones that run them around 380ish watts.). To be honest after the first few weeks it's really hard to tell the difference anyhow, so I'm not sure there's any benefit other than to the power company.

Aquattro · #24 10-20-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by subman

I think a time goes by you will see the full sps tanks like yours under the leds

Oh, absolutely! I think we'll see better LED options within a year or two, but for now, I don't think there is a suitable replacement for MH/T5 in a SPS tank. I think a LPS or softie tank may be fine, as coverage is nice, growth is exceptional and the overall color and tone is really beautiful, they're just missing something that SPS need for full colors.
My tank is still awesome and most of the colors are fine, just a few select pieces that lost some pizazz

Pink and blue milli is a gorgeous blue milli, I'd buy it in a heartbeat as such, but knowing what it was vs what it's become just bugs me a bit. If I can enhance it with some add on, great, if not, I'll live with it. Probably

Madreefer · #25 10-20-2012, 10:54 PM

I too have experienced the same with my LEDs. I have been trying to supplement my reds and picked up a couple of Ecoxotic RGB. The ones I picked up I cant find on the internet. I picked these up in Phoenix. They help a bit but not as much as i'd like so i'm getting a couple more. If I could I would run a couple of T5s, but I dont have that option as I dont have an inwall tank or run a canopy. It would look to cluttered if I was to go that route. I too agree that I have not seen colors with my LEDs as I have with running MHs or T5s. With a little tinkering with the settings on the Sols if I crank my blues and turn down the whites than the colors seem to pop better but than the tank looks too blue.

marie · #26 10-20-2012, 10:56 PM

I solved my humidity problems by adding glass tops to the tank. My 300g tank now only evaporates 3-4 cups of water a day...... as an added bonus, I no longer need a heater in the tank and can maintain a temp of 78-82f with the metal halide lights and an open window in the fish room

don.ald · #27 10-20-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer

I too have experienced the same with my LEDs. I have been trying to supplement my reds and picked up a couple of Ecoxotic RGB. The ones I picked up I cant find on the internet. I picked these up in Phoenix. They help a bit but not as much as i'd like so i'm getting a couple more. If I could I would run a couple of T5s, but I dont have that option as I dont have an inwall tank or run a canopy. It would look to cluttered if I was to go that route. I too agree that I have not seen colors with my LEDs as I have with running MHs or T5s. With a little tinkering with the settings on the Sols if I crank my blues and turn down the whites than the colors seem to pop better but than the tank looks too blue.

I know I have asked you about these before, but can't find the thread, or maybe it was a pm?
So they are not like the one on modular site?
http://www.modularled.ca/rgb-panorama-pro-led-module/
http://www.modularled.ca/ecoxotic/
Rick

Milad · #28 10-20-2012, 11:14 PM

which LEDs are you using?
what colors are you missing?

Its all about knowing what wavelengths are going to bring out which colors. People using a cool white and royal blue combo will loose reds, oranges, pinks but their greens will explode.

check out the thread on full spectrum and OCW (Ocean coral white) LEDs.

If you are looking for color, thats the best place to check. Makes a huge difference.

FYI whoever is telling you its a technology thing is blowing smoke up your @$$. Light is light, it doesnt matter if its T5, MH, or LEDs. Its about the wavelengths. match the wavelength and locus of a MH with LEDs, its going to be the same light and will have the same effect.

But as the thread linked above will show you, MH are cookie cutter and you are stuck with their attributes. With a bit of testing (as the guys in that thread have done) you can take the right LEDs and the right ratios and produce some incredible colors in corals (AND FISH!)

Madreefer · #29 10-20-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by don.ald

I know I have asked you about these before, but can't find the thread, or maybe it was a pm?
So they are not like the one on modular site?
http://www.modularled.ca/rgb-panorama-pro-led-module/
http://www.modularled.ca/ecoxotic/
Rick

Well I guess they are on there. It would be the RGB Panorama Pro. It does'nt mention the colors all that well or that they come with a remote control. I would assume the RGB stands for red green and blue but theres also a white. The only thing I dont really like about them is there is no built in timer or any means of ramping the intensity up or down automatically. I'm sorry I remember you asking how I was going to mount them. If you want I can PM some pics of how I mounted them or I can post on this thread. I'll wait until the OP chimes in as I dont want to hijack.

RuGlu6 · #30 10-20-2012, 11:27 PM

I have more 14K white then blue and colors are still very good even compare to 2x250W MH DE . Only one coral browned.
First I just had T5 HO actinics replaced by LED’s link below.
scroll down for pics.
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...t=87189&page=4
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Now I’ve decided to replace 2x250W DE MH with 14K Whites & 470nm Blue LEDs.
My tank is SPS loaded and all SPS except one Pink bird nest are showing good color. Pink bird nest browned but polyp extention is much better under led.
The whole thing cost me slightly over $320. If people are interested i can let everyone know long tirm coral reaction.
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FTS
LED rig is covered by the black cover.
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps590ae6d6.jpg

From below fixture
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps3f145d63.jpg
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I have a dimmer so i can adjust 14K white LED's to any intensity.
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http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...psb8343769.jpg
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Fan cooled, fan speed is based on dimmer setting.

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...psbbac15ab.jpg
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http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...psb566357c.jpg

LED rig
http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps62f9c248.jpg
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http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps46a875bc.jpg