Jebao Pumps - Illegal?

[Treebeard]

Originally Posted by AquaticFinatic

Forgot to mention from what I was told if your house burns down from this pump your insurance won't pay. I would love more clarification on this problem.

Unless your insurance agent told you this tidbit it's nothing more than fear mongering.

[AdamsB]

Sounds like a rumour started by ecotech.

[DAVE]

Originally Posted by nrosdal

I am waiting to hear back on anything other then the CE rating from Jebao. They are in no way illegal for anyone and if you are concerned with the csa stamp you should probably get rid of your wavelive/speedwave/diablo dc pumps as well.

I also have not seen ul or csa stamped on anything from them ever. So to say they are fraudulently doing so because they announced on their site to recently have gotten those certs (which may be on all or only some products they make) seems out of line unless you have something proving that.

Nick, just relax.

You can't be that oblivious to the talks across the forms/facebook that the markings MAY have been counterfeit. You also can't be that naive to think a product out of China would fake such a marking. All we are doing is trying to find out the truth.

If the pumps are legit, end of discussion. The point of the thread is to squash the rumors and find out the truth. If they are certified there should be no issues getting the paperwork.

[uniboob]

I think because it is being submerged in water/around hazardous environment makes them NEED to have certification.

From ESA site:

The OESC Rule 2-022(3) (c) specifies some exceptions to electrical product approval requirements. Electrical equipment does not require approval if it connected to the load side of an approved Class 2 power supply whose power output does not exceed 100 V

[warriorcookie]

Originally Posted by uniboob

I think because it is being submerged in water/around hazardous environment makes them NEED to have certification.

From ESA site:

The OESC Rule 2-022(3) (c) specifies some exceptions to electrical product approval requirements. Electrical equipment does not require approval if it connected to the load side of an approved Class 2 power supply whose power output does not exceed 100 V

uniboob, you're close. The powerhead itself does not need the certification, submerged or not. This is because the powerhead operates at 24V which falls below the 100V requirement.

It's the Class 2 power supply (the "Wall Wart", AC/DC converter) that needs the certification.


I have yet to see anyone produce a shred of information that confirms that the certification is faked. There's alot of "I've heard" and "I know for a fact", but no-one is producing a credible source...

[kien]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

Also, the UL approval label seems to be counterfeit.

Regards,

What does "seems to be" mean? Does that mean yes, it is, and without any doubt or reservation, or does that mean, "well, maybe it is, maybe it isn't" ?

also..

[byee]

Originally Posted by AquaticFinatic

Forgot to mention from what I was told if your house burns down from this pump your insurance won't pay. I would love more clarification on this problem.

Absolutely correct about your house insurance not covering damages caused by a non CSA approved device.

For the ones in BC, there is a safety office you can take your electrical devices to get it approved by the BC Safety board. I can't remember what the office is called but it was located in Richmond located near the tech companies. I remember taking samples of computer power supplies to them when I was importing them.

Good luck!

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by kien

What does "seems to be" mean? Does that mean yes, it is, and without any doubt or reservation, or does that mean, "well, maybe it is, maybe it isn't" ?

I would say it means... "just make it sound like it's kinda bad if you can't prove it "

[uniboob]

Thanks for the clarification, I was going to call ESA inspector to come do a field evaluation as I know a few around here.

[Reef Pilot]

Just curious, are DIY LED fixtures, and other DIY devices involving electricity (eg. ATO switches) illegal, and no insurance coverage if there is a fire?