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			 got o golds I have dealt with bow valley before they are horrible, (likes to lie). I have had a couple tanks built through golds and they do a much better job, and they dont lie about how long it will be before you get the tank, I should have a custom tank hoppfully today thhat I had order  form them I will post pics if it shows up today and then you can make the call. I got a 60g with herbies style external overflow returns in the euro brace starfire pannels and a custom sump designed by albert. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			    My display is 72"l x 26"w x 24" high - 12mm starphire on the three viewable sides. I do not use standpipes, and do not see the issue with drilling the bottom of a tank. Quote: 
	
 
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			 Seeing as Albert just built my tank in the fall, thought I would offer my 2 cents. I am fairly new to this hobby (< 1 year) and am realising a lot of it is trial and error. When I had my tank/stand built, I thought I had everything exactly the way I wanted it, and wouldnt want anything done differently. Now that is is set up & running, there are several things I would have done different on both the tank and the stand. Overall I am definately happy with the tank the way it is, but when I upgrade  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Seeing as you seem to know exactly what you want, I think you will be fine. They herbie for overflow is awesome as many others will attest to, but I recommend tracking a gate valve down, even though Albert will tell me to suck it up and be patient with the ball valve Goodluck, cant wait to see the build thread! 
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			 [quote=jasond;295135]I recommend tracking a gate valve down, even though Albert will tell me to suck it up and be patient with the ball valve  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			LOL I hear ya!! I think I finally have my ball valve dialed in.. despite what Albert says it is a really is a pain in the backside! If I was to do it again I would order a gate online. 
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			 Had my tank built by Elite and was happy with it.   Albert (golds) then convinced me of a few changes (specifically the Herbie) which he did for me, and I couldn't be happier.  He also helped me with my piping and deisgn of the system.  All my research was great, but talking to a guy who deals with aquariums for a living was an eye opening expereience.  My best advice is Go Herbie! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Like I said, very opinionated....  I will be getting multiple quotes and have done my homework on this. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 Just a quick note when i got a quote done on a tank, I used 7 or 8 business's around north america. Everyone said they could drill the bottom (glass) but it would have to be minimum 3/4 inch think and tempered. Decided against it  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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			 Someone meantioned contacting miracles??  I was in contact woith them before about building me a tank.  Not as sophisticated as yours, but price was great.  I got their email here if you want 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 go to gold's..great service 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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