Jebao Pumps - Illegal?

[mark]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

ok I did a bunch of reading and in some cases if there is a problem caused by a non-CSA appliance then your insurance could be void.


Steve

I'd be less than impressed that if I bought something from a local retailer in that voided my insurance.

[nrosdal]

Originally Posted by mark

I'd be less than impressed that if I bought something from a local retailer in that voided my insurance.

Yes, that would suck. But luckily the Jebao stuff has real certs so we are all good here

[DAVE]

Originally Posted by nrosdal

Yes, that would suck. But luckily the Jebao stuff has real certs so we are all good here

Did I miss something? Did you get the paperwork?

[nrosdal]

When i posted that last night i was just assuming that people are being over reacting weiners and that it seemed silly to assume fraud just because some unknown person said that something that looks very legit coming from a company with more then 10 years history in pumps(mostly pond early on) may be forged.

But this morning i got an email from the Jebao rep i deal with and i have some links to calm the folks down a bit.

One thing i did learn is that the adjustable power supplies (as an add on and not included with pump) are not ul or cul and even though i don't find that to be a problem and will keep running mine i will remove them from sale as i don't want to get involved in supplying people with something that may be even 1% unsafe. Especially when i am selling them as an add on at my cost as a convenience for my customers.

Here is Certification for the wp25/wp40/wp60 power supply:

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...439&sequence=1

[uniboob]

I don't think people are getting that yes, all these power supplies have been stamped with CE, ULC...and whatever else. The point being is that they are not actually certified, regardless of what the power supply says.

If someone was to happen to someone who purchased one from a retailer, it would be the consumers choice obviously to pursue a lawsuit. Which could entail jail time and lots of fines.

And a note to everyone that sells them: now you know they aren't certified in Canada, your walking on hot water IMO.

[Reef Pilot]

Originally Posted by uniboob

If someone was to happen to someone who purchased one from a retailer, it would be the consumers choice obviously to pursue a lawsuit. Which could entail jail time and lots of fines.

And how often does this happen? What exactly would you be sueing for? Doesn't there have to be some damages suffered or loss of some kind?

I used to work in big box retail, and was best friends with the head of the legal dept. They used to get lots of consumer lawsuits (mostly slips and falls), but never heard of a lawsuit over a label. And we used to buy a lot of stuff from China (almost all of the hard goods).

[DAVE]

This thread is starting to lose focus...

Time for a GIF

[uniboob]

Originally Posted by MarkoD

Just make sure to plug it into a gfci. If it shorts, it'll kick out the breaker in the plug, right?

Yea it could if your GFCI is working properly.

I work with electrical for a living, and can tell you GFCI don't always work the way they should. If you were to look up the # of recalls for GFCI you would be amazed.

[uniboob]

Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

And how often does this happen? What exactly would you be sueing for? Doesn't there have to be some damages suffered or loss of some kind?

I used to work in big box retail, and was best friends with the head of the legal dept. They used to get lots of consumer lawsuits (mostly slips and falls), but never heard of a lawsuit over a label. And we used to buy a lot of stuff from China (almost all of the hard goods).

It only needs to happen once. The lawsuit wouldn't be over a label... It would be over whatever damage/loss was caused.