What's your take on zeovit?

[Stinktooth]

On a 70g system you should dose 1 vial of bio digest and 2 vials of bioptim. 1 vial of bio digest is good till 250g. All in all it costs you less than a pack of darts a month to run it.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Acrowhora

Been using prodibio bio-digest and bioptim for a while now and love the results.also using the ff KZ additives:amino acid,amino acid lps,pohl's xtra,coral vitalizer,k potassium balance,sponge power,macro elements,iron,and I'm getting good coloration and growth.just purchased coral snow and dosed on Friday but haven't noticed any changes yet(too early perhaps)

Basically you are using almost all the required zeovit products other than the basic four used for ULNS :P So why not use the complete system

Originally Posted by Proteus

I think once you look into the cost of the two programs zeo will be more costly.

I run some zeo products in my tank and the zeo products are twice as much

I can get. Prodi for $40 big box

All the zeo foods are $50+. Per bottle.

Give it a shot u may love it




Myself though prodi runs me $120 a year
The zeo foods prob over $300 a year

Well here's the difference. The $120 cost that you are pointing out is only to reach ULNS. Afterwards, you will have to start dosing other stuffs to reach the point where you appreciate you did the ULNS in the first place (and hence the added cost).

Prodibio biotim + biodigest (15+15 vials box) costs $40 (taking the cost you posted).

My tank is 70 gallon (net volume). So basically, I will have to dose the exact same amount that a 100 gallon would dose. Each vial cost $1.3 (excluding TAX). Basically, I will have to dose 4 vials every 15 days (2 + 2) thus, costing me 8 vials every month ($10.6). Afterwards, I will have to reach out to add elements like CV (+$50), CS (+$50), xtra (+$50)....etc.....cost actually starts getting build up.

It would be wise to compare prodibio's cost directly to the basic four.

1lt of zeolite = $17. This will go will be enough for 16 weeks/4 months (500lt is needed for my tank). So, this costs $4.25.

Zeobac 10ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $2/month.

Zeofood 50ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $0.4/month

Zeostart 250ml = $45. For my tank, I will have to dose 0.5ml daily. Thus 15ml monthly. So this bottle will cost me $2.7/month

So, basically, prodibio would cost me $10.6/month for the same result (being optimistic here) that zeovit would do for $9.35/month. Rest of the cost will incur depending on personal ways and views. But basically, to maintain ULNS, that's the cost for my tank.

Generally, in zeovit forum, people who run full form of zeovit predicts a cost of $20-25/month on a moderately sized tank. So, extrapolating that results in a maximum of $300/year. I am sure that will go up with prodibio if you follow the same dosing regime as with complete zeovit system.

Originally Posted by e46er

I dosed the same 3 you bought for close to a year with no noticeable difference when I started or when I quit except my wallet was lighter.

Like Albert said, I am also reading this for the first time that those 3 didn't work, esp coral snow. Don't really know....

[SoloSK71]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Basically you are using almost all the required zeovit products other than the basic four used for ULNS :P So why not use the complete system



Well here's the difference. The $120 cost that you are pointing out is only to reach ULNS. Afterwards, you will have to start dosing other stuffs to reach the point where you appreciate you did the ULNS in the first place (and hence the added cost).

Prodibio biotim + biodigest (15+15 vials box) costs $40 (taking the cost you posted).

My tank is 70 gallon (net volume). So basically, I will have to dose the exact same amount that a 100 gallon would dose. Each vial cost $1.3 (excluding TAX). Basically, I will have to dose 4 vials every 15 days (2 + 2) thus, costing me 8 vials every month ($10.6). Afterwards, I will have to reach out to add elements like CV (+$50), CS (+$50), xtra (+$50)....etc.....cost actually starts getting build up.

It would be wise to compare prodibio's cost directly to the basic four.

1lt of zeolite = $17. This will go will be enough for 16 weeks/4 months (500lt is needed for my tank). So, this costs $4.25.

Zeobac 10ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $2/month.

Zeofood 50ml = $20. For my tank, I will have to dose 3 drops (perhaps) twice per week. Hence 6 drops per week or 24 drops per month. That equals to around 1ml per month. So this bottle will cost me $0.4/month

Zeostart 250ml = $45. For my tank, I will have to dose 0.5ml daily. Thus 15ml monthly. So this bottle will cost me $2.7/month

So, basically, prodibio would cost me $10.6/month for the same result (being optimistic here) that zeovit would do for $9.35/month. Rest of the cost will incur depending on personal ways and views. But basically, to maintain ULNS, that's the cost for my tank.

Generally, in zeovit forum, people who run full form of zeovit predicts a cost of $20-25/month on a moderately sized tank. So, extrapolating that results in a maximum of $300/year. I am sure that will go up with prodibio if you follow the same dosing regime as with complete zeovit system.



Like Albert said, I am also reading this for the first time that those 3 didn't work, esp coral snow. Don't really know....

Plus how much for the reactor plus how much time?

Charles

[albert_dao]

You can run zeo additives sans reactor (bak and start3) similarly to how you'd run prodibio for similar net effect. You just get a lot of benefit to having a reactor and doing everything daily. Consistency yields better results.

It's sorta like having a calcium reactor/doser setup vs manually adding your ca/kh/mg. Overall increases in water stability and makeup regularity promotes better vigor.

[lastlight]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

regularity promotes better vigor.

now you're even sounding like the descriptions on the zeo bottles

[SoloSK71]

I guess if you run or want to run an ULNS then it would pay. For me I like just cracking a couple of vials a month for my mostly LPS system.

Charles

[Madreefer]

I'm gonna be following this thread. I've considered getting a zeo reactor with the rocks in the past but just been too lazy to do the research. I stopped when I got to the part where it says not to run if running a refugium. But yet my refugium is not for growing any algae but strictly pods.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by SoloSK71

Plus how much for the reactor plus how much time?

Charles

Reactor is a one time cost so I didn't consider that (plus fish street came out with some great reactors that have good review and are around $100 which is almost equal to two boxes of prodibio; probably the amount that has to be used because you see any difference).

Time is a variable that cannot be judged. Plus, from the looks of it, you only need about 5 minutes every day at max (dosing gets lower to weekly dosing once everything gets under control) which is not a big deal to me. I spend way too long staring at the tank :P

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

from the looks of it, you only need about 5 minutes every day at max

I spend about 45 seconds every other day, so not a huge investment in time. Takes longer to wipe algae off the front glass.

[e46er]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

You would be the odd one out. Are you still running a tank? Maybe I can help you figure out why it didn't have any effect. What were your specs/livestock, etc?

Yeap been running 6 years or so 120 gal display 40 gal sump 250watt MH vertex 180 skimmer dosing pumps 40 gal WC every 2 weeks snapper return with carbon and GFO reators snapper closed loop
Fish 2 yellow tangs 2 clowns flame hawkfish diamond goby royal gamma
Corals -mixed reef

Not really interested why it didn't work I was just sharing my experience