ORA livestock:what would you buy?

[Jeff000]

Originally Posted by SanguinesDream

I would be ever so grateful if you could post a link to the fee schedules.

You'll have to talk to a broker, or get chummy with your lfs and ask them if you can use their people.

The permits (and shipping) are why everything is so much more expensive here. A flame angel is what 80$ in store. They will have paid 15 bucks for that fish from the wholesale. But even at 80$ the store is hardly making anything at all. I know a couple places only bring in the fish and corals to get service clients because that's the only part that makes money.

I tried to bring up a big order. But ora won't give up enough information to get the permits. And just because a piece has been aquacultured for 15 years doesn't matter, they still need the location of original collection. And because of the needed paper trail you can't buy from hobbyists. Not legitimately anyways.

[howdy20012002]

You, as an individual, will not be able to get CITES from the USA
No US wholesaler will sell to someone without a business license and no store will go through the hassles of getting the paperwork
The only way you will get hard corals or clams across the border as an individual is illegally

[Jeff000]

Originally Posted by howdy20012002

You, as an individual, will not be able to get CITES from the USA
No US wholesaler will sell to someone without a business license and no store will go through the hassles of getting the paperwork
The only way you will get hard corals or clams across the border as an individual is illegally

Not true.
I had a wholesaler in the states that would do it all, but required a significant purchase.
Although I'm not sure if I needed to give my business license from my electrical company to them. It was just too expensive.

It's way easier to go to your lfs and ask if you can get in on their order, tell them you'll assume all responsibility for the boxes you order. Makes it cheaper for everyone. But probably have to be a 1000$ order at least. And if they are all doa then that's too bad, you have to eat it.