Prizm Skimmer

[Doug]

Diomedes, dont worry to much about venting now & then. I know what thats about. :D It now takes all my restraint to stay out. I found it never leads to anything anyways. Also my post was not in reference to yours alone. I just need to keep the thread half decent. Thanks for the response.

I also agree, some of the boards have been getting kinda pig headed at times. However, they have been that way, as far back as I can remember. Heck, AL, use to be huge, like RC. Flame wars kicked the heck out of it.

Anyhow, I sure agree everyone is entitled to their opinions. Thats what these boards are about. If we all agreed, it would be boring. ;) We all need to just keep the arguments,{and thats what they can be}, within the guidelines of the boards.

[Canadian]

Look, the bottom line is that when accepted experts, like Scott Michael, routinely publish information with regard to suitable fish husbandry and people choose to ignore or blatantly disregard their EXPERT OPINIONS it's beyond frustrating.

P.S. You'd have a difficult time accusing me of being hypocritical considering the largest and most active fish I've ever owned was a Flame Angel housed with 2 Ocellaris Clowns and a Firefish in a 90g aquarium. Admittedly, I'm rather conservative when it comes to stocking recommendations (i.e. I would NEVER own a Tang of any species).

And finally, sometimes it's important to engage in these heated debates on inflammatory topics - anyone who remembers the SANO wars on Aqualink thanks their lucky stars that there was so much controversy that led to debunking the myth surrounding the "snake oil."

[Troy F]

I wish I had stumbled across the continuation of this thread before I saw you guys at the meeting today. I have a 29gal tank sitting here in front of me and I wouldn't even think of adding a surgeon to it. Personally, I'd have a tough time adding more than maybe a pair of clowns and a dart fish. That's my opinion. Those of you that have been in the hobby for a while should know better, those of you who haven't should learn from those that have already made the mistakes. Simple, don't you think? If you want to try bucking the system, go for it. It's your money and your conscience if things don't go well. I tend to side with Andrew on this one; Scott Michaels has a bit more weight in this argument than anyone, and his recommendations are on the low side for some fish, if you ask me (which you didn't). A bigger tank may not be the ocean boys, but it is bigger and bigger is better though maybe not best.

As for getting ticked off (you'll notice I said ticked and not p...ed), no problem but treat the person your talking to with respect whether you agree or not. Keep the language clean so your grandma can read it.

[Mak]

Hmmm... maybe I could put 4 Regals in my 55 :rolleyes: . And let me guess, Diomedes is your roomate [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] . When's your book comin out?

[ 14 September 2002, 21:06: Message edited by: MAK ]

[Troy F]

Mak, that post contributes nothing to the thread and is exactly what Doug was asking we not do. Diomedes is working on a biology degree at SFU and isn't an idiot. He just doesn't have the same opinion as you or me. Share your experience on the topic, that would be a contribution.

[Mak]

Troy, I was not saying he was an Idiot(those are your words) or even refering to it [img]smile.gif[/img] . They do seem to know quite a bit, but they are coming off as a couple of know it all's.

[ 15 September 2002, 23:15: Message edited by: MAK ]

[EmilyB]

I keep tangs..I love tangs. Plan for over 100g by year 2 (if you have those baby tangs they need special nutrition) and then more (or a lot more depending on the species).

[EmilyB]

Originally posted by stephane:

On the other hand I found that clown tang are realy big swimer and not very good in a tank even six foot long I have no other experience with other tang but I see a lot of very big naso look very hapy in tank similar as mine

This is my experience with tang I hope it will help

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would never encourage anyone to purchase a clown tang without the capability of a huge tank or home for it eventually, and a lot of tang savvy.

I have kept mine for one year now. I had some support from others who have kept them sucessfully. Nutrition was extremely important in the juvenile stage, and Golden Pearls really made a significant difference, IMO.

Stripey Pants is reaching maturity, (he's gorgeous, I should try to pic him), needs caves and swim throughs, and exists otherwise peacefully with the other fish. He has yet to exhibit behavior that totally disturbed me (like the huge yellow tang and the kole in the 72g bolting and freaking which they have never done since moving to the 155g. These guys I've had almost four years)

He is the only fish that lets me pet him, because I insist he will only get nori that way. :D

I feel I can help provide nutritional info for tangs for the people who keep them. Many don't realize how great the demand for food is with these fish.

[Delphinus]

Fantastic information here.

But it's a little unfocused. What does this have to do with a Prizm skimmer?

I wonder if there is cause to maybe break this thread into two different topics.

I was tempted to close this thread, but, maybe that is not the right decision. I just wonder though if we could start two new discussion topics.

Maybe not though. What do I know? Not very much.

[ 14 September 2002, 22:38: Message edited by: delphinus ]

[EmilyB]

:D I saw you close it...hehehe

Ok, the prizm skimmer is a POS, not worth the gas money to go buy one. JMO of course. :D

[ 14 September 2002, 22:49: Message edited by: EmilyB ]