Concerning the new Buy/Sell posting format

[Zoaelite]

Originally Posted by reefwars

I would contribute reguarily , for people like me how is sponsorship possible where I don't own a business and my revenue from frags is small, I'm not someone who posts only when frags are for sale I post answers, I visit houses, give people tester frags free and offer any service I can....I rarely charge for anything just frags I swallow all other costs and time......its kinda sad that I have to be careful not to make sponsors mad when people like me put in the real blood and tears.
...I bet I can name 50 people I've helped one way or another free of charge since Christmas
....and when its time to sell some frags I'm stepping on eggshells

Not trying to start a revolt just stating what's obviously fact

No need to toot your own horn Denny , that's what were here for.

I couldn't agree with the statement above more, never even meeting me Denny SHIPPED me a Nuc. Green frag free of charge. It's people like this that act as the proverbial glue here at Canreef, remove their ability to provide help and you have a house built of sponsors, not a home built for us.

In addition most of these sellers are providing something very few vendors provide, actual aquacultured frags, grown in their own home systems. Not a single store in Calgary at the moment has an actual propagation system. What option does this give us besides wild caught?

Please Canreef, stop oppressing the little guy before its too late!

[Northernseacorals]

Originally Posted by Zoaelite

Most of my concerns have been voiced by the general canreef populace, the only thing that I can add is I have no problem paying a membership fee (Something similar to RC) if this would help circumvent high vendor fees.

By all means this wouldn't be a "pay or get lost" thing, just give general members the option to "support" canreef. Paying members could get a little avatar indicating they have personally contributed.

Just my 2 cents.

The sponsor fee for AquariumPros is $3060 per year
The sponsor fee for Reef Central is $6000 per year
And Canreef is less than half of AquariumPros

Your solution to start taxing the members is not the answer to get cheaper fees for sponsors.

[Snaz]

THanks Titus for taking the time to address our concerns. It is not just the members that make canreef special but it is the staff too. Cheers!

Now how much to purchase a banner add that proclaims my awesomeness? That would be awesome.

[Zoaelite]

Agreed, thanks for taking the time to reply Titus. Always nice to see ownership involved in these things.

Originally Posted by Northernseacorals

The sponsor fee for AquariumPros is $3060 per year
The sponsor fee for Reef Central is $6000 per year
And Canreef is less than half of AquariumPros

Your solution to start taxing the members is not the answer to get cheaper fees for sponsors.

Your logic is flawed my friend.

Relating sponsorship to cost requires a quantity variable, in this case membership. Reefcentral has 289,000 members, Canreef has 9600 therefor by your logic a Canreef sponsorship should cost around $206.00/ year.

You also brandished me by inserting the word "Tax" into my mouth, please reread my statement at no time have I suggested a mandatory payment to all members.

Originally Posted by Zoaelite
Most of my concerns have been voiced by the general canreef populace, the only thing that I can add is I have no problem paying a membership fee (Something similar to RC) if this would help circumvent high vendor fees.

By all means this wouldn't be a "pay or get lost" thing, just give general members the option to "support" canreef. Paying members could get a little avatar indicating they have personally contributed.

Just my 2 cents.

As for the effect, if the site is bringing in revenue from paying members how could that not go to offset the cost of paying sponsors?

[dc4]

Originally Posted by Northernseacorals

The sponsor fee for AquariumPros is $3060 per year
The sponsor fee for Reef Central is $6000 per year
And Canreef is less than half of AquariumPros

Your solution to start taxing the members is not the answer to get cheaper fees for sponsors.

You cant see it as taxing members if its just an optional fee for special percs as preivously mentioned.

Like I said previously, lots of us here visit regularly and have made friends that are interested in this great, but expensive, hobby. If someone wants to come by and visit the forums and not pay a cent, Im sure they will always be able to do that. Those that have mentioned contributing to a optional user fee, would do so for the added percs (<-misspelled on purpose). Lots of other sites give free monthly draws, discount cards for sponsors, tshirts, stickers, special icons, allowing edits of posts?, etc...

It would be up to the admins/owners of the site to work out what, if anything, would be offered for any optional fees.

Just think of it like having 2 versions of canreef:
Basic Version (no fee): The same canreef that you know and love.
Upgraded version (optional user fee): Beefed up version of canreef with a few extra percs.

[FishyFishy!]

Yup, I find the new format extremely annoying. Just harder to read and seperate through posts (The opposite of what it is intended to do). And the wording is kinda funny too (eg. "one off sale of personal items"). Sounds funny to me lol.

Maybe simple acronyms like most other forums would work? They don't need to be links either.

[Seriak]

The prefix idea has some merit but...

a) the link to forum rules is annoying and a little too much and

b) confusing as all hell as part of the title says I have read the link and part doesn't. (As previously mentioned)

A better idea for a prefix would be to add a city which is mandatory. Now that would be useful.

I never did agree with a limitation on what I can sell out of my fish tank. It helps keep the bills down at least until the inevitable crash which makes me have to buy everything again.

[fishoholic]

Seems like an ok idea in theory as a way to sort out sales posts but since it gives the option of "no prefix" it seems kinda pointless as I'm sure most people will choose that option out of convenience.

[jorjef]

If these changes reeeeally bother a person that much they are probably breaking the rules to begin with ooooooor he feel the need to instruct everyone to hold hands to cross the street just so he can take them back across to the other side again. This crappy hotel must have me grumpy, well a three hour drive to the next, hopefully it's better.

[sphelps]

Not a fan