Show Us Your LED Tanks

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Where is this developed world?? I've never seen an office building or industrial plant that uses LEDs for lighting and I'm a contractor that works in different offices and manufacturing plants all the time. Also I just got a new house, no LEDs anywhere and there really wasn't much available for fixtures with the exception of a few over priced dim bulbs and under cabinet lighting. Even new street lights still use HPS even though new LED streetlights exist cities are just not buying into them.

LED technology is great but it's still developing and has a long way to go before it's as popular as you seem to think it is. Will LED prices go down, yes but not in the way you think off. New LEDs with higher efficiency are released every damn day, the LEDs I purchased a few months back are now cheaper and obs. They've been replaced with a new model which is better but also more expensive... Quite simply prices will remain the same for the latest and greatest but cheaper options will always exist but nobody wants those

I don't really agree Vancouver is replacing alot of lamps for led lions gate bridge for example is all LED, u carry LEDs in ur pocket everyday cells, iPods, tablets, gaming systems, computers, even tvs are LED nowadays. I was helping to install LED fixtures in houses in west van expensive or not they do exist IMHO we use LEDs in more applications then u make it sound like

[Aquaria]

Oh and I almost forgot neon signs are a thing o the past there all LED signs now most malls u go into that have an electric sign board are LED don't forget flashlights and the new LED bulbs that u can use in any old fixture

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Aquaria

I don't really agree Vancouver is replacing alot of lamps for led lions gate bridge for example is all LED, u carry LEDs in ur pocket everyday cells, iPods, tablets, gaming systems, computers, even tvs are LED nowadays. I was helping to install LED fixtures in houses in west van expensive or not they do exist IMHO we use LEDs in more applications then u make it sound like

While most of those applications aren't really the same LED technology (lighting applications), essentially all that is related to the computer industry where LED technology has almost always been, it's improving but so is everything in the electronic industry but the point is LEDs are not new in those applications nor are they used for lighting purposes. Now the one good example is the LED retrofit on the lions gate bridge where someone is replacing so called old technology with new. However how many other bridges in the world are following the same path? How many houses are now using LEDs instead of other technology? How many plants, factories, office buildings are using LEDs for lighting purposes? What percentage would you guess? Realistically we have a long way to go before claiming LEDs are now in everything. This was my point not that you can find LEDs in your cell phone or TV.

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by whatcaneyedo

Sorry it was $40 not $50. I found my old receipt which says $169.95, currently on their website they are $129.95. They are Lumenmax 3s that I bought at J&L.

Everyone in the developed world is using LEDs now. They're in consumer goods, homes, office buildings and industrial plants. They're also in PCs and cars.

I dont know anybody that uses LEDS for anything aside from the ones located inside of electronic devices. On that note, my old work used 400 watt metal halids that cost 60 dollars per fixture including bulb. How come aquarium MH are 600-2000 just for the metal frame when you can get a industrial MH for 60 bucks? Where in the cost of materials and technology, does 5 bucks of aluminim, some plastic and a power chord cost $600?

People in every house can use LEDs in the future, doesnt mean that LEDs made for aquariums will cost any less.

Now there is merrit in saying that you can use older, outdated LEDs to lower the cost but as I said, the materials in a metal halide fixture that costs 600 dollars might cost 25..does production cost really affect the price of aquaria items?...Reefers also tend to demand cutting edge technology, do they run down and buy those 10 dollar Odyssea MH bulbs but the truckload? No, they buy the 120 dollar bulbs just like they will want the new Cree Chips that cost 15/pc in their fixtures.

I will stand by it a million times over, prices in a niche-market stay relatively the same since demand on the item is low and people are willing to pay a premium. Of course, there are "cheap' LED fixtures out there that use bridgelux, I have one. It is alrgiht, but still cost 300 dollars and it not good enough to effectively keep sps for an extended period of time. Cheap products in this hobby have a bad rep and cosidered substandard....there is a stigma attatched to any product that seems to cost less then the others. Ask Odyssea, who actually produces product with a reasonable margin.

[lastlight]

These LED fixtures aren't going to get any cheaper I don't think so I agree. The DIY crowd should be able to take advantage of the savings of getting a slightly older diode if they are available.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by lastlight

These LED fixtures aren't going to get any cheaper I don't think so I agree.

Actually maybe fixtures will get cheaper, much cheaper, I mean I just noticed by cordless phone has a little red LED that blinks when the battery is low and this exact phone is now $20 cheaper at future shop and that only has one LED!

[whatcaneyedo]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

I dont know anybody that uses LEDS for anything aside from the ones located inside of electronic devices.

Really?

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by whatcaneyedo

Really?

Really. Everbody i know uses incondecsent or if they really care about energy, CFL.