Profilux vs Apex

[mr.wilson]

The Vertex Cerebra is just a CAD drawing, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. You will see a touch screen from the other players before that one ever makes it to market. A proprietary touch screen isn't the smart way to go, when you can buy an Ipad for $550, or an HP Slate in Stir Crazy's case

If your short term and longterm needs are limited (PH, temp, ORP, ATO, lighting), then buy a Reefkeeper. If you have a larger system with a calcium reactor, prop pumps, or any other 0-10V devices then go with Apex, and if you don't mind paying double the cost and can't do it with Apex, then Profilux is the smart choice.

All of these manufacturers have very confusing or at least vague, product lists and descriptions. Be prepared for surprise extra costs for modules, expansion boxes, power bars, level sensors, calibration solutions, software, and solenoids.

If you like tech gear, then any of these are well worth the investment. If you are not technically inclined, then buy dedicated control devices. Sometimes it is convenient to carry all of your eggs in one basket, while other times... how does the saying go again?

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by mr.wilson

The Vertex Cerebra is just a CAD drawing, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

That's a pretty unsubstantiated claim considering a working prototype was displayed at Interzoo. To the best of my knowledge, it would seem highly improbable/impossible to have thousands of individuals touch and physically manipulate a CAD-based object at a trade show short of... MAGIC. So unless you're suggesting that MAGIC happened, I'd back up your statement with something outside of a biased opinion.

The Cerebra is completely different from traditional controller systems. It is an app-based device, and much like what the iPhone did to the mobile industry, the Cerebra will set the stage for a new level of user functionality and interactivity. What other controller will be seamlessly plug & play for any and all devices/apps. What other controller will prominently feature Android-based app building function? How many controllers are still limited by their 8-bit CPU?

Cross your t's and dot your i's buddy.

Sorry to the OP for derailing the thread.

[mr.wilson]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

That's a pretty unsubstantiated claim considering a working prototype was displayed at Interzoo. To the best of my knowledge, it would seem highly improbable/impossible to have thousands of individuals touch and physically manipulate a CAD-based object at a trade show short of... MAGIC. So unless you're suggesting that MAGIC happened, I'd back up your statement with something outside of a biased opinion.

The Cerebra is completely different from traditional controller systems. It is an app-based device, and much like what the iPhone did to the mobile industry, the Cerebra will set the stage for a new level of user functionality and interactivity. What other controller will be seamlessly plug & play for any and all devices/apps. What other controller will prominently feature Android-based app building function? How many controllers are still limited by their 8-bit CPU?

Cross your t's and dot your i's buddy.

Sorry to the OP for derailing the thread.

Sorry, I didn't hear the prototype was working. I heard it was just a concept. I still stand by my comment that an Ipad or similar device makes more sense. I'm sure Vertex will drop the Cerebra once they realize this.

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by mr.wilson

Sorry, I didn't hear the prototype was working. I heard it was just a concept. I still stand by my comment that an Ipad or similar device makes more sense. I'm sure Vertex will drop the Cerebra once they realize this.

Okay!

... But the Cerebra is not a GUI device/touchscreen overkill/whatever toy for rich kids and their Nemos. It is a complete aquarium manager and hosts all the bells and whistles commonly associated with these equipments. There is not a lot of information out there about this product, but I assure you, the touchscreen is merely the most visible portion of the platform. There is a reason it has a 32-bit processor over the standard 8-bits that you see in other systems.

At the risk of hyperbole, I would press that the Cerebra will do for aquarium controllers what the iPhone/Blackberry did for personal communication devices.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Okay!

... But the Cerebra is not a GUI device/touchscreen overkill/whatever toy for rich kids and their Nemos. It is a complete aquarium manager and hosts all the bells and whistles commonly associated with these equipments. There is not a lot of information out there about this product, but I assure you, the touchscreen is merely the most visible portion of the platform. There is a reason it has a 32-bit processor over the standard 8-bits that you see in other systems.

At the risk of hyperbole, I would press that the Cerebra will do for aquarium controllers what the iPhone/Blackberry did for personal communication devices.

is it realy based on the android set up? that would realy suck if it is.

Steve

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

is it realy based on the android set up? that would realy suck if it is.

Steve

Oh God, Android is great, you're just upset that you still own a BB. I would consider it a great feature if it's Android based.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Oh God, Android is great, you're just upset that you still own a BB. I would consider it a great feature if it's Android based.

actualy any of the app based phones have good apps and its not the android its self I am worried about but rather its popularity with its brainwashed owners. the apple iphone has been having virius issues with apps and now its moving on to the android. now it is a slim to none chance that this would be an issue with a aquarium controler as there is nothing realy to gain by infecting it, but the possibility of something getting screwed up and possibily messing things up with your tank are pretty scary.

I think that even if it is a app based set up you will only be allowed to use there apps and they won't be open source like a lot of the android ones are.

Steve

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

That's a pretty unsubstantiated claim considering a working prototype was displayed at Interzoo. To the best of my knowledge, it would seem highly improbable/impossible to have thousands of individuals touch and physically manipulate a CAD-based object at a trade show short of... MAGIC. So unless you're suggesting that MAGIC happened, I'd back up your statement with something outside of a biased opinion.

The Cerebra is completely different from traditional controller systems. It is an app-based device, and much like what the iPhone did to the mobile industry, the Cerebra will set the stage for a new level of user functionality and interactivity. What other controller will be seamlessly plug & play for any and all devices/apps. What other controller will prominently feature Android-based app building function? How many controllers are still limited by their 8-bit CPU?

Cross your t's and dot your i's buddy.

Sorry to the OP for derailing the thread.

Wow, somebody fell out of bed this morning. Thanks for the un-biased post though.

[lastlight]

You rattle the Proline cage and Albert returns from the dead. That my friends is the REAL magic.

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by lastlight

You rattle the Proline cage and Albert returns from the dead. That my friends is the REAL magic.

Maybe it was just residual parnoramal energy posting?