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Old 01-23-2010, 03:22 AM
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Having seen what passes through dogs digestive tracts over the years I have a hard time believing they can't handle eating raw food and kibble at the same time

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Also - you cant tell what a human is eating just by looking at them either... that goes for ANY animal really... so what the heck is this 'you cant tell the difference from looking at them'? Other than being on a completely improper diet, most animals look about the same even on different diets... INCLUDING people. And we are no more/less developed than any other species out there... our brain is developed, we stand and have opposable thumbs... we also have back problems because we stand (which our bone structure is not specifically designed for)... So I do not see how 'appearance' is a good basis for saying raw is better or worse....

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But the basis for the arguments people give for feeding raw is that a dog has a shinier coat, don't shed as much, have less allergies ect. I have not yet seen that myself.

I can't comment on dogs having more stamina and energy because I need them to stand still and therefore have no idea if its true or not

and you can tell by "looking" that some kids have been raised on mickey dee's hamburgers
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But the basis for the arguments people give for feeding raw is that a dog has a shinier coat, don't shed as much, have less allergies ect. I have not yet seen that myself.

I can't comment on dogs having more stamina and energy because I need them to stand still and therefore have no idea if its true or not

and you can tell by "looking" that some kids have been raised on mickey dee's hamburgers
I can't quite agree with that being from RAW diet, people who also switch to a high quality kibble, report the same things. I think it is from moving from crap to good stuff weather it be raw or kibble.

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Old 01-23-2010, 03:36 AM
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I can't quite agree with that being from RAW diet, people who also switch to a high quality kibble, report the same things. I think it is from moving from crap to good stuff weather it be raw or kibble.

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Hehe I couldn't agree with it either.


I still have to say that the biggest factor in a healthy, shiny coat is fresh air and exercise. I can tell always which dogs belong to the elderly and the shut-ins
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Hehe I couldn't agree with it either.


I still have to say that the biggest factor in a healthy, shiny coat is fresh air and exercise. I can tell always which dogs belong to the elderly and the shut-ins
ya the clean ones
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I can't quite agree with that being from RAW diet, people who also switch to a high quality kibble, report the same things. I think it is from moving from crap to good stuff weather it be raw or kibble.

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Steve, my observations are when switching from the high qualiy kibble to raw, so for me there is that "next level". Before I started raw though, I had people stop me at the lake to ask what I feed my dogs, because they were so much shinier than their dog. Most people would then make some comment about my kibble choice being so expensive, etc....
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Marie, Steve's post is in fact what I meant. I just directed it toward raw since thats what this thread is about.

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Old 01-23-2010, 03:32 AM
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Lol yes cause I clearly said its impossible to have dogs survive to old age and good health with kibble.... *roll eyes*
No you inferred that dogs live longer on a raw food diet and I felt a need to clarify that people who choose kibble aren't necessarily consigning their pet to a premature death



And if you keep rolling your eyes like that, you'll give yourself a headache
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And if you keep rolling your eyes like that, you'll give yourself a headache
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My beloved rottie Diva, was never vaccinated, never ate dog food, and drank filtered water all her life. I thought she was going to live a good long time since I made darned sure I did everything right... she was dead shortly after she turned seven due to Lymphoma

I did everything the pure and "right" way... it did not matter.

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I feel that food and other choices for a pet, are the owners choice. If someone makes a suggestion you have the final say on whether or not to listen. Just try not to shoot the messenger. Remember that if you you get defensive to someone, expect that they get defensive right back.

When it comes to my own choices, I may be a bit biased since my father and sister are both veterinarians (and my dad owns several vet clinics) but I feed my cat 'vet food'. This is my choice but the fact I get it from my family (who recommend it to me) for the great price of free doesn't hurt either. My father has no qualms about what the owners decide to do with their animals and merely makes suggestions. He is, quite simply, just there to make sure your pet is healthy.

I also saw earlier in the thread someone mention about vets selling food may be a conflict of interest. This may be the case some places but when I asked my father he simply stated he'll order anything a client wants, he keeps stocked what him and his other vets recommend (or what his regular customers buy) and that his markup on food is really low (again, this is likely different in other places). So if a client decides to buy food elsewhere it's not like he's losing money. His operations are in smaller centers though so he carries it too because sometimes he's the only place in town that doesn't sell your 'purinas' and other such foods.

So make your own choice. If your pet is happy that's all that matters. There's 2 sides to a coin and you'll easily find people who say both good and bad about EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, it's just the people saying the negative things are usually louder.
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