Live sushi

[Myka]

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

Won't get into the dolphin videos from Japan (most disturbing to me) but I will say its all very sad.

Yes, I got sick after I watched one of those videos. Same with some of the videos of skinning little critters alive for their fur.

[RuGlu6]

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

C'mon...seriously?

Your going to really compare buying anything warm (I think you meant 'warm') blooded from a LFS (not sure how many warm blooded animals are found in a LFS mind you) to eating a fish live piece by piece?

I don't understand why you visit a fish keeping forum if you have these views?

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With all due respect,
If i have blood or any circulatory system , regardless of how much evolved i am no different from human in regards to torture and feelings.

Having said all that i am just as guilty !
Because i keep fish in a glass box and I eat sushi.
What i am trying to say is that we have to evolve and change our ways.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

With all due respect,
If i have blood or any circulatory system , regardless of how much evolved i am no different from human in regards to torture and feelings.

Having said all that i am just as guilty !
Because i keep fish in a glass box and I eat sushi.
What i am trying to say is that we have to evolve and change our ways.

Well that's not a bad way to look at things I guess...better than much of the world these days that have absolutely no regard for animal OR human life I disagree about evolution having nothing to do with feelings but agree, no animal deserves to be tortured.

It's a cultural difference. I was in China a few years ago with my father and saw rabbits being killed by smashing their heads on the pavement in front of little kids playing on the street in a market, the kids don't even look twice. Coming from Canada myself, I had a very hard time visiting many parts of Asia. The commercial, tourist cities were great but some of the smaller towns and villages I just couldn't deal with watching how animals were treated. My father has lived in Asia for a few years now and has said its the one main reason he wants to come back to Canada asap.

[trilinearmipmap]

It is disgusting to see them treat animals this way. If we are going to use an animal for food we need to give it a quick and humane death.

On the one hand it seems some other cultures don't place the same value on animals' lives as we do.

On the other hand the way animals are treated in factory farms and slaughterhouses in North America is pretty sick too. The animals' suffering is hidden from us because all we see if a slab of steak in a package at Safeway. It makes me want to become a vegetarian sometimes.

[travisle]

how about them baby seals we club up in the artic??? ehhh!!

[geobee]

That is very sad and cruel! I can't believe people can eat the poor fish while it is still alive and leave it there in front of them, while they are eating his body in front of him. I've seen plenty of vids like this and they just seem so wrong. =(

[G1GY]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

If we would really be so good to our fish we would Not keep it in the glass box to begin with.

When we buy anything that is worm blooded from LFS we are just as same,

When we buy a dog and cut its ears off or a tail (because it looks better that way), we are just as same, How about removing cat's claws? how would that feel.
lets face it, we the people, we don't realize what we do, and most of it is for profit or entertainment.

Wow!
The only thing that you,ve mentioned here that has no purpose is ear docking. This practice is being frowned on by many breeders now.
All of the stuff you've mentioned are(now days) done by people who are animal physicians. Maybe you've heard of them? In most cases the procedures that you mention are done to increase the pets quality of life They don't remove dew claws, dock tails, spay and let them run around while they giggle like little school girls. Killing animals for food is something that we do, but when we remove the flesh off of a living thing and then watch it squirm, swim or wiggle while we eat it...... That makes us animals. There is no plus to doing this. The fish, frog or invertabrate doesn't get any fresher. It won't taste any better than if you had just killed it. If the amount of suffering is proportional to the quality of the meal, there's serious issues that have nothing to do with food and everything to do with old world thinking and a lack of understanding.
Nothing is gained by watching a living creature suffer.

[my2rotties]

If any of you know me personally or just from facebook, you know my dogs hit the jackpot when they ended up with me. Yes, my rotties tail is docked. It was done when she was a day old. Yes, she is spayed and I made some hard choices in going through with it. However, it was best for her in the end, and there were no puppies. My dogs get the best of everything, from human grade food I prepare for them and they are my business partners.

It is not always best for all animals, but to say pet owners are cruel is out of line. I love my dogs more then anything else in this universe, and it shows in how they behave themselves and how we interact.

[belzebuth]

Aggree with you Diana!

I also believe that tail docking serve a purpose. To prevent injuries, have you ever seen a rottie with a broken tail ? I have....not pretty at all.

[my2rotties]

They docked tails when they used to pull carts back in the old days. It is not needed now of course, but at such a young age, I don't really think it is all that bad. I think circumcising baby boys would be more painful. The ear cropping seems like quite and ordeal, but if it is done by a qualified vet, I am not going to judge. I know people cut pit bull's ear off with scissors, which is really not at all cool.

I know people can be horrible to animals but not all pet owners are cruel and have their animal's best interest at heart.

I used to feel a lot of remorse when I looked at all my fish in the tank. I really did not know what happened to them until after I got into the hobby. All I can say is that my fish are fat and healthy and don't seem to hate tank life. All of them come eat out of my hands and follow from side to side of the seven foot wide tank. I don't feel bad for them at all. They have a wonderful home. If I could do this hobby all over again, I probably would not, but they are here now, and they will be loved and cared for to the best of my abilities.

Originally Posted by belzebuth

Aggree with you Diana!

I also believe that tail docking serve a purpose. To prevent injuries, have you ever seen a rottie with a broken tail ? I have....not pretty at all.