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07-08-2009, 02:49 AM
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Sure our population is low but our emissions are not.
Canada in last place among G8 on climate scorecard from World Wildlife Fund http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/2...life-fund.html
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07-08-2009, 03:09 AM
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last place amongst the G8... Really - yet we still emit 10% of the US CO2 emmisions...
http://www.carbonplanet.com/country_emissions Yeah, but we forget how this work, CO2 acidifies the water, Calcium carbonate disolves, raising pH ... calcium reactor... Reefs have existed during periods where temperatures were much heigher, atmospheric CO2 much heigher... Lets keep things in perspective...
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07-08-2009, 05:47 AM
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C'mon Andy, you're being lazy :P Pre-industrial Revolution, variable world oceanic pH was 8.0 to 8.3. Today's average variable oceanic pH is 7.9 to 8.2. That's over the course of 150 years. Prehistorical parallels took tens of thousands, if not millions of years. Acidic oceans are not unprecedented (late-Jurassic ~7.5), but the rate at which they are becoming so is. There's your perspective.
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07-08-2009, 06:05 AM
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I've given up on climate change... I switched to CFL lights (actually putting me down one rung on the environmental ladder, since they contain toxic mercury and my power is all hydro), I don't drive a car, I buy organic and recycled materials (and recycle those that are worth recycling)... What more can I do?
I need to start breeding endangered species in my living room if I'm to be seen as helping (rather than hindering) these days...
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07-08-2009, 06:14 AM
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07-08-2009, 06:21 AM
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Andy, the last time rapid ocean acidification occured, there was a mass marine extinction. i think that's all the perspective anyone needs.
as for the calcium reactor point, you forget that reactors are used outside of systems and pH is still normal in the displays. If the pH is high in the display (the ocean in this case), any calcium carbonate that is formed will dissolve.
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07-08-2009, 01:24 PM
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07-08-2009, 02:42 PM
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Individual actions will not be enough. Governments and corperations need to make sustainable options the only options available. I applaud stores like Home Depot that now charge for bags.
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07-10-2009, 04:01 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...xide_emissions though I'm willing to bet I will be chided for using wikipedia as a reference. Still 2.3% of the world CO2 emmisions - if you actually assume these are real numbers - I still find these numbers to be amusing especially when compared to total CO2 emmisions & percentage of errors... Calcium reactor - it doesn't matter whether its within or external to the display - the chemical reaction is all that matters; you'd probably not be happy if you were to lower your display to a 7.? pH - to raise calcium levels... The chemical reaction still will occur no matter where its located. Albert - Lets talk over the eons not decades... The oceans pH, and atmospheric CO2 levels have changed radically - yet we don't live in a desolate lifeless world. There are numerous species of current corals that can be found back millions of years - if the changes since then haven't killed these species off...
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