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Old 02-21-2009, 03:37 AM
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once i get home tomorrow from shooping i found out how to use my Wife's camera will compare them and up load them .
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:44 AM
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The negative responses to this are kind of interesting in their own way.

It seems to me like there is a tendency within the aquarium hobby to look upon a lot of vendor's messages as "Oh look another guy selling magic goop". Obviously this is a reaction to a lot of aquarium product companies slinging a lot of magic goop over the years. This has left a lot of us, myself included, seriously jaded. Call it the "Marc W " effect maybe.

However if you step back and look more carefully you'll see a shift happening. A lot of vendors are reaching out to hobbyists like we've never seen before and it seems to me like Fauna / Aqua Digital are a pretty good example of this. There are others too like Eco Tech and ATB, all of them have in common an effort to not just engage in marketing messages but actual dialog about their products.

I can understand somebody's first reaction to info about UltraLith and similar stuff being "oh look magic goop", I was right next to them at one point. If you take the time to look at what they are saying about the stuff you can see it's definitely not a magic bullet and they're not trying to sell it as one. It is pretty neat stuff though.

Anyway, whatever you think about ULN systems or UltraLith in particular you've got to give the guys some respect for being as open to dialog as they are.
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Old 02-21-2009, 12:58 PM
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well said , All you can do is tell people abou the product. you can't force them to use it. ,just show the results at the end of the day if some one wants to try it then that is great. If some one doesnt want to try it then that is fine. You will alway get some one that says what the heck and ask many question s before buying it. that is life and that is whe way the people operate they want to see reults before getting involved with it.
Not every tank is going to react to the supplements all the same some will disagree with the Fanua and some will tkae to it. Some tanks will crash when using it now id it from the product due to them totally stopping the product and going to something else? Or is did the people use the product the way he was instructed to use it, and that person got to gung ho and added something that he wasnt supposed to add.

SOme people want the perfect system to havePerfect levels on everything and 0 on every reading, May be Fauna will do that for some tanks, then there are tanks that probaby won't accept it that easy. So people can't afford Fauna, some people cnat afford ZEO, some are jsut bull headed to give out negitive thought s on the products, due to hearing it from a another reefer that it didnt work for him its not going to work for me.

IMO people are going to have different views on the product some will like it some will love it and some will just don't care to look at.
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Old 02-21-2009, 01:11 PM
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I just want to thank everyone for their input even the negative camp, it is rare that such a thread can stay as on track as this and I thank all of you for that.

I think from the recent posts the message I am tying to get across is getting there and I will continue to offer reviews product information and great support, and hope i can help turn this industry round into a more client focussed business.

Please feel free to continue to debate and I will enjoy responding
 


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