Enough is enough...the Calgary Zoo needs

[Whatigot]

Originally Posted by Johnny Reefer

FWIW, and if I'm not mistaken, the Vancouver zoo, of what little is left of it, is being/will be phased out as the animals slowly die off of old age. Eventually, all that will be left is the aquarium. Again,...if I'm not mistaken. I believe that is the plan.

The zoo that used to be in stanley park was a joke.
It was pure tourist attraction and has not eheld animals for years.

The vancouver zoo, in Abbottsford, is slightly better but still nowhere near as nice of a facility as the Calgary zoo.

One way or the other, animals are pretty much going to be eventually relegated to man made habitats, the ones that can adapt to such a crappy life anyways.

1 goat hangs himself?
big deal.
We are killing our entire planet a little bit faster everyday.
I'm an animal lover, but I am also a realist.
Humanity and the animal world cannot coexist.
at least not yet and not in the forseeable future.
all of these animals are doomed to die and we are all the killers.
you drive a car?
guilty.

you buy food or consumer goods and have no idea where hey came from?
guilty.

You buy fish or coral collected from the wild?
guilty.

use tap water to fill your tank?
guilty.

wash your car in your driveway?
guilty

Use paper that isn't 100% recycled?
guilty.

Literally, the list goes on and on and on.

I'm guilty.
through inaction and complacency, my guilt sits on my shoulders like an iron scarf.

Our entire way of life is threatening every other living being on the planet, from trees to plankton.
I feel for this poor goat, but I feel for everything else that is dying too, just because it's happening slower and isn't pumped on CTV doesn't make it any less tragic.

I just can't believe that the death of one goat can incite such passionate, righteous banter when we may well be past our 5 minutes to resuscitate our planet already.
so please guys, if you wish you could've saved this goat, take a step back and consider the big picture and think about the struggling, kicking, doomed goat we all live on.

[rstar]

Originally Posted by Whatigot

The zoo that used to be in stanley park was a joke.
It was pure tourist attraction and has not eheld animals for years.

The vancouver zoo, in Abbottsford, is slightly better but still nowhere near as nice of a facility as the Calgary zoo.

One way or the other, animals are pretty much going to be eventually relegated to man made habitats, the ones that can adapt to such a crappy life anyways.

1 goat hangs himself?
big deal.
We are killing our entire planet a little bit faster everyday.
I'm an animal lover, but I am also a realist.
Humanity and the animal world cannot coexist.
at least not yet and not in the forseeable future.
all of these animals are doomed to die and we are all the killers.
you drive a car?
guilty.

you buy food or consumer goods and have no idea where hey came from?
guilty.

You buy fish or coral collected from the wild?
guilty.

use tap water to fill your tank?
guilty.

wash your car in your driveway?
guilty

Use paper that isn't 100% recycled?
guilty.

Literally, the list goes on and on and on.

I'm guilty.
through inaction and complacency, my guilt sits on my shoulders like an iron scarf.

Our entire way of life is threatening every other living being on the planet, from trees to plankton.
I feel for this poor goat, but I feel for everything else that is dying too, just because it's happening slower and isn't pumped on CTV doesn't make it any less tragic.

I just can't believe that the death of one goat can incite such passionate, righteous banter when we may well be past our 5 minutes to resuscitate our planet already.
so please guys, if you wish you could've saved this goat, take a step back and consider the big picture and think about the struggling, kicking, doomed goat we all live on.

Well Said!

[EmilyB]

I hope you don't deal with the whole planet worries every day. That is quite a load to take on.

Some of you haven't been around as long, but what went before me was the 60's...

I was a teenager in the 70's, Vietnam era...we figured we would all die. A friend of mine asked me to hitchhike to the bridge to ...

Well, anyway...

Don't live your life in the negative. Do what you can do. Save a can..or whatever..don't give up, save one thing.

[lastlight]

Agree with everything said here. While a zoo isn't maybe a perfect thing to have exist in the first place it does bring everyday people closer to nature and hopefully make them care about it a bit more. I support the zoo even tho in some ways I don't fully agree with them even existing...same thing as this hobby I love so much.

[EmilyB]

Originally Posted by Treebeard

Looks to me like a freak accident. How many children have died from accidents with toys, cribs, etc that have found to be unsafe and recalled after the fact?

I don't think about that so much. I care about animals a lot....

There has to be a few of each type you know....

[lorenz0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBc0HgW2zHw

found the ctv news video

[Keri]

It's sad that it happened but...you know where a lot of animals die?

The wild.

I know that statement may incite some but it's true, accidents happen.

Now I'm not going to get into an ethical debate about whether zoos are right or wrong but I do believe that we have a moral obligation to provide the best care possible for the animals we keep, and that in this case if it was truely a freak accident then we can't really fault them for it.....Yeah, they've had some animals die over the last couple of years but out of hundreds of animals those are still pretty good odds!


As far as zoos go, Calgary is pretty decent, if the girl from the gift shop was stupid enough to say "oh, it happens all the time" we have to remember....she's the girl from the giftshop. I doubt she personally cares for any of the animals, which is a good thing!

I'd like to know what eventuallu happened with the sting ray thing too.

[ElGuappo]

Originally Posted by Keri

It's sad that it happened but...you know where a lot of animals die?

The wild.

.

Good point could have been a meal a long time ago.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by ElGuappo

Good point could have been a meal a long time ago.

I've yet to see a wild animal hang themselves , plus don't knock the gift girl..it's ignorant.

[justinl]

good point made. IME people who work in the gift shop don't generally mix with animal care staff and aren't always hired for... intelligence. That said, there are exceptions. Right now im dating a girl from the giftshop who's even more than a fish nut than i am and is pretty tight with some of the cold saltwater aquarists. technically, either way, something like that should be radio'd in IMMEDIATELY and I wouldn't be surprised if giftshop girl said that just to placate the woman but reacted right away by contacting her superior or the care staff directly.

imo, comparing the zoo to the wild is apples and oranges. a zoo (or any captive application) tries to mimic nature but will ultimately fail. captive animals usually either die from captivity effects (like our freak accident goat among others) or outlive their wild counterparts. neither is natural.