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Old 01-06-2009, 01:09 AM
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I'm ****ed that my government is throwing my tax dollars at the "Big Three". The cars are inferior to Japanese and have been for 25+ years now. Why do we continue to buy these lemons? It's not the labour as we have great Toyota and Honda plants in Ontario, it must be the design and corporate practices that result in continually poor products.

My extended family hasn't bought anything but Honda, Toyota and Mazda for many years now. Excellent cars.

Sorry for you troubles My2rotties.

I've never owned anything but GM vehicles and have never had an issue with any of them yet. I don't buy the domestic cars are crap , I don't see it with any of the vehicles I have owned from GM.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:41 AM
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I really don't want to see My2rotties request for help derailed here but this domestic bashing is really getting ridiculous...

GM has the most fuel efficient cars on the road period. Don't believe me, check the numbers and see who has the most models getting 35 mpg or more. JD Power and Associates consistently place GM and Ford products in their top lists. You want to talk advanced technology, the Chevy Tahoe Hybrid gets better CITY fuel economy then the toyota camry and the hybrid option only adds $6000 to the price (unlike the $10000+ price tag the hybrid option adds to toyota or honda models) The toyota Corolla is probably the single most recalled vehicle for the 2008 model year, put a corolla or camry side by side with their domestic competition (particularly the 2008 chevy malibu) and you would be floored in the quality difference. The Buick line beat out lexus in initial quality results.

Honda still makes a good product but Toyota has gone into the gutter while GM and Ford realized that the garbage they put on the road in the 80's and 90's needed to disappear. Chrysler makes an awesome diesel engine and the single best selling mini-van world wide. These are not vehicles that "nobody wants"

What do you think the Vancouver olympics will look like if GM goes under and can't provide the fleet of vehicles it is donating to the games, never mind the millions of dollars in straight up sponsorship money. After 9/11, the big 3 donated millions upon millions of dollars to fire department and victim relief funds, what did the japanese manufacturers do?

As far as the bailout goes, the taxpayers would lose the money if any of the big 3 collapsed as all those (grossly overpaid) factory workers would be defaulting on their homes/cottages/boat payments and riding the EI train. The money provided to the domestic automakers is a LOAN which will be paid back, not a gift.

Sorry for the sidetrack and best of luck with your new truck
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:49 AM
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:54 AM
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What do you think the Vancouver olympics will look like if GM goes under and can't provide the fleet of vehicles it is donating to the games, never mind the millions of dollars in straight up sponsorship money. After 9/11, the big 3 donated millions upon millions of dollars to fire department and victim relief funds, what did the japanese manufacturers do?
Better Maybe they could even cancel them!

Would make a heck of a lot of people happy here in Vancouver!

Why would Japanese Manufactures donate money to the US???
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:58 AM
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I might drive a Toyota but I love domestic cars. The retro Challengers, Mustangs and Camaros make my heart race. I used to have muscle cars and race them illegally years ago. I know not a law abiding thing, but fun none the less.

I am upset about my truck not being warrantied, but I do not wish harm on the big three. Yes, I drive an import, but I would love a flex fuel Chevy Tahoe. The FJ was affordable and what I felt was practical for my needs at the time. I tend to keep a vehicle for longer then I should, and felt the Toyota was the truck for me.

My husband's F350 is the back bone of our company. We NEED it to haul tools, materials and sometimes a trailer for the aforementioned. We need a reliable truck because if we cannot get to a jobsite, we don't get paid. In the grand scheme of things I wish we could just get the truck fixed and warrantied, but that is not going to happen. Now we have to walk away from it, and hopefully Advantage ford will do as they promised... I will see over the week what is truth and what is fiction. All I know is we have to have a replacement for the F350 in one form or the other.

I cannot begin to imagine if AMerican auto makers disappeared. I don't care what anyone says... it would be a disaster for so many reasons.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:04 PM
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At the dealer now. Guess they are saying the catback exhaust is the reason head gaskets failed. Stay tuned since dealer said amvic won't help. I will see about that. What a mess
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