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Old 11-18-2007, 04:44 PM
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Pet stores dont use garlic because they dont believe in it.Somebody should eat a pound of garlic and stand in a swamp and see if any masquitos bite them
Rob, we're talking about ich and garlic in treating fish. What the heck does eating garlic and standing in a swamp prove in fighting fish ailments?

I gotta ask....have you even tried it??? Do you know what you're talking about first hand, or do you just listen to the LFS?? And stop with the "I've been doing this since dinosaurs roamed" stuff, lots of us have been doing this as long or longer than you. Without 50+ outbreaks of ich....
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I gotta ask....have you even tried it??? Do you know what you're talking about first hand, or do you just listen to the LFS?? And stop with the "I've been doing this since dinosaurs roamed" stuff, lots of us have been doing this as long or longer than you. Without 50+ outbreaks of ich....
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Pet stores dont use garlic because they dont believe in it.Somebody should eat a pound of garlic and stand in a swamp and see if any masquitos bite them
I've had an Aquarium shop for 33 years and use garlic everyday mixed with flake and frozen foods. Mostly for marine but also on clown loach and other scaleless freshwater.
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i dono why this seemed upset people
i just thought i would explain how this chemical works

i can give you step by step enzymatic and immunological breakdown of how garlics chemicals produce a antimicrobial effect but for most people it wouldn't make sense.
the fact is that garlic has these property's and whether its humans, dogs, insects or fish. it works at a certain biological level that wards off and or cures fungus or parasites or bacterial diseases.

i thought i would explain how it works
so people understand what chemicals are present and
why it has this effect.

just because tetracycline works for one person with a sore throat
dose not mean its going to work for someone else
and it dose not mean it isn't an antibiotic

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Old 11-18-2007, 11:18 PM
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Lets just say in some instances garlic has seemed to help some poeple and others not. If you have ich then theres not much to lose by trying to resolve the problem with garlic. In my own experiance it has helped but... If you set two tanks up side by side, and kept everything the same I'm sure the two tanks would still not be exactly the same. I would not say it is a cure but maybe an aid for healing in some instances.
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thanks skimmin thats a good idea
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:40 PM
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Rob, I find it difficult to believe you fight garlic so much, but then suggest a power outage cured ich in your tank. Ya, way better advice than garlic, turn your power off. c'mon on.
Stores also don't recommend garlic because they don't sell garlic. They sell copper.
Now, if you want to use power outages and tear your reef apart every time (50??) you get ich, be my guest. But don't tell people that use garlic that they're wrong, because they are not wrong. Hundreds if not thousands of reports on the success of garlic have been recorded. You're saying we're all making it up? Really?
Now I don't care what your biologist friend or your LFS think, because I've tried it and it works. "Works" is a good selling point to convince me to keep using it. And since it works for so many others, I think it's good advice to try it if/when other things don't work.
You know copper is toxic to fish also, right? I don't want to poison my fish trying to cure them of something. Oh, right, it's only poisoning them a little. That's ok. Mhmm.
Lots of doctors wil tell you homeopathic remedies don't work, but thousands of pateints use them to resolve ailments. Jusat like garlic and ich.
If you don't want to use it, don't. If someone else wants to try it to help their fish, let them try it. Know why? It WORKS. No, really.
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