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			 A Quiet one pump came with a skimmer,I bought recently, a 6000, I think.It pumps well enough to run a beckett (about 1500gph) with the gate wide open, but it gets quite warm and it isn't really is any quieter than my little giant (3MDQ-SC ,I think). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Both the little giant and the ever popular mak4 are about $200 where the box on the Quiet one said $145( and a ceramic shaft ?? Hope this helps 
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