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Old 12-04-2013, 01:51 AM
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Honestly, I don't see the point of a controllable pump on a skimmer. The pump's output should be matched to the skimmer. Making it adjustable just gives the end user one more setting to get wrong and have to balance with other settings. I prefer just an adjustable output (wedge pipe/gate valve etc) to get your water level in the skimmer right and maybe an adjustable volute/venturi to adjust the air draw. That's all you need. Why add another complication?
Also you can buy a skimmer that will suit your tank now, and still use same skimmer in an upgrade with all that needs to be done is turn up controller. I have heard many people using this feature currently on other controllable skimmers, as there bio load grows, they just then turn up skimmer.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:47 AM
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Also you can buy a skimmer that will suit your tank now, and still use same skimmer in an upgrade with all that needs to be done is turn up controller. I have heard many people using this feature currently on other controllable skimmers, as there bio load grows, they just then turn up skimmer.
I'm still not sold. I don't think that's the way to adjust and balance a skimmer. The amount of flow should match the size of the body etc. to maximize dwell time and removal of DOC. So the flow should be matched to the skimmer and you can adjust skim by adjusting air draw for more or less bubbles and the water level in the skimmer for where the foam breaks. That's my understanding anyhow.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:48 PM
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I'm still not sold. I don't think that's the way to adjust and balance a skimmer. The amount of flow should match the size of the body etc. to maximize dwell time and removal of DOC. So the flow should be matched to the skimmer and you can adjust skim by adjusting air draw for more or less bubbles and the water level in the skimmer for where the foam breaks. That's my understanding anyhow.
Ron exactly you hit the nail on the head... having a skimmer with a controller pump. isn't going to give you a bigger skimmer
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1. Contact time caused by
A. wider Chamber or B. Taller Chamber.
2. air bubbles to be finer this will be caused be the air you are letting in and the type of wheel to chop up.
3. yes a pump will help. However if your body isnt matched to the skimmers pump then you are not doing but pushing the skimmer to overflow. And allow the skimer to be inconsistant. turning up the pump on the skimmer will not cause a increase in performance. it will help alittle but in the end if you chamber is not big to keep the bubbles going for contact time. Then you are doing Crap.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:54 PM
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Agree this is why we have not rushed into the DC range yet. we will of course supply on demand, but lets see what comes.

I spoke at length with Bubble magus late last night and right now they are releasing no details at all. What was seen was a "thought in motion" rather than a pre production test.

No doubt these products will arrive, but I am not hearing any time soon.
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Also you can buy a skimmer that will suit your tank now, and still use same skimmer in an upgrade with all that needs to be done is turn up controller. I have heard many people using this feature currently on other controllable skimmers, as there bio load grows, they just then turn up skimmer.
Not to sound rude. please dont take this as a attack . just stating a fact.

Nope that isnt true. please show me one example .. and going from a 40 gal to a 80 gal isnt considered a actual upgrade.

If you are stating that a increase of 80 gal tank to a 120 gal tank maybe a bit but not alot.

If you are stating that a upgrade from 80 gal to a 200 gal nope you wont see it happeneing.
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