Ideas for LED supplementation

[subman]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Nope, just finished reading the same results from Radion and Vertex owners. It's a LED thing, not an AI thing. One guy is going to try the new Mitras, but we'll see. Although even if those do the job, the price puts them out of my reach.

I'm not buying that if I can adjust my radions to make my yellow tang red I'm sure I can make the corrals pop

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by subman

I'm not buying that if I can adjust my radions to make my yellow tang red I'm sure I can make the corrals pop

Then you have better light tuning skills than the guy who posted, as well as the radion tanks I've seen in person. One of my "corals of concern" is also in a radion lit tank and has the same issues.
Sorry, while the Radion is a fantastic looking unit, it's not really any better than a Sol. Perhaps a bit different in spread vs. penetration, but that's it. Radion, SOL, Vega, Vertex, all reported to have the same deficiencies in SPS color production. Maybe the Mitras will make up for that, maybe not.
LED have a lot of great features, like I said, but they do not match a 400w Radium MH.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by subman

I'm not buying that if I can adjust my radions to make my yellow tang red I'm sure I can make the corrals pop

further on this, it isn't about making it look a certain color, it's about it being a certain color. My pink and blue milli was pink with blue, even out of the tank in daylight. Now it's a blue milli, no pink. you can blast all the red at it you want, and maybe make it (and the tang) look red or pink, but it isn't

[subman]

Perhaps that was a bad example, I meant that I'm sure with the right program you could advice the spectrum you desire. Its just very time consuming to do this so most people don't.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by subman

Perhaps that was a bad example, I meant that I'm sure with the right program you could advice the spectrum you desire. Its just very time consuming to do this so most people don't.

I dunno, I see guys selling their LEDs to go back to MH or T5, you'd think they would invest the time to play first, as that's mostly free. But so far, I've yet to see a SPS tank under LED that matches a MH tank (given top end of both )

But, we digress, this isn't a thread about justifying the extra money spent, just looking for someone that's had luck returning colors lost with LED, regardless of brand.

[subman]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

I dunno, I see guys selling their LEDs you'do back to MH or T5, you'd think they would invest the time to play first, as that's mostly free. But so far, I've yet to see a SPS tank under LED that matches a MH tank (given top end of both )

But, we digress, this isn't a thread about justifying the extra money spent, just looking for someone that's had luck returning colors lost with LED, regardless of brand.

I apologize for hijacking. I think a time goes by you will see the full sps tanks like yours under the leds

[Delphinus]

I think the problem is that when you're coming from Radiums and in particular Radiums on SonAgro, you get totally spoiled and develop higher expectations!

I can't add anything useful to this discussion other than I'm disappointed to hear this, I was considering giving up on the halides (3 Radiums) because of the heat and humidity and in this shoulder season where it's not cold enough outside to run the HRV, it's putting my house into an awkward spot of excessive humidity. Now I'm thinking I'm just going to start cutting holes in the walls to the outside to increase the ventilation in the tank room and keep the darn Radiums!

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

I think the problem is that when you're coming from Radiums and in particular Radiums on SonAgro, you get totally spoiled and develop higher expectations!

I can't add anything useful to this discussion other than I'm disappointed to hear this, I was considering giving up on the halides (3 Radiums) because of the heat and humidity and in this shoulder season where it's not cold enough outside to run the HRV, it's putting my house into an awkward spot of excessive humidity. Now I'm thinking I'm just going to start cutting holes in the walls to the outside to increase the ventilation in the tank room and keep the darn Radiums!

I would BTW, I stopped running the SonAgro ballasts about 8 years ago, just been running e-ballasts. I'm starting to consider how i could vent the tank to get rid of humidity -lol

[Delphinus]

Oh I thought you were still on SonAgros. I have my middle on SonAgro still but the outside two are regular M137 or whatever they are (I forget now. The proper pulse-start ones that run them around 380ish watts.). To be honest after the first few weeks it's really hard to tell the difference anyhow, so I'm not sure there's any benefit other than to the power company.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by subman

I think a time goes by you will see the full sps tanks like yours under the leds

Oh, absolutely! I think we'll see better LED options within a year or two, but for now, I don't think there is a suitable replacement for MH/T5 in a SPS tank. I think a LPS or softie tank may be fine, as coverage is nice, growth is exceptional and the overall color and tone is really beautiful, they're just missing something that SPS need for full colors.
My tank is still awesome and most of the colors are fine, just a few select pieces that lost some pizazz
Pink and blue milli is a gorgeous blue milli, I'd buy it in a heartbeat as such, but knowing what it was vs what it's become just bugs me a bit. If I can enhance it with some add on, great, if not, I'll live with it. Probably