Outraged!!!

[Myka]

Originally Posted by jorjef

If a person has a problem with the way the industry is they should leave the hobby rather than support it.

Right, but the "the way the industry is" in general is not illegal importation!

Originally Posted by fishytime

we can also choose to support retailers that do things legally...... No?

Yes, agreed.

Originally Posted by jorjef

How can anyone be certain the rock they have in their tank, the fish they take home or the corals they buy are 100 percent legal.

As a hobbyist you never know, that's just such an open statement that it is kinda ridiculous.

[lastlight]

If one more person refers to the permits as CITIES I'm borrowing Mike's AK =)

Given the mood around here I should add that that's a joke

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by Myka

As a hobbyist you never know, that's just such an open statement that it is kinda ridiculous.

It is when you take it out of context, not so much when you read what went along with it.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by lastlight

If one more person refers to the permits as CITIES I'm borrowing Mike's AK =)

Agreed! I refrained from commenting.

Originally Posted by jorjef

It is when you take it out of context, not so much when you read what went along with it.

It was still ridiculous. I just don't like big huge quotes, so I only quoted exactly what I was commenting on. I always do this.

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by Myka

It was still ridiculous. I just don't like big huge quotes, so I only quoted exactly what I was commenting on. I always do this.

How conveeeeeeenient lol Okay I'm done again...

[jtbadco]

we could only hope....

so basically since there is bad in the world and always will be,...no one should bother to try for any measure of proper behavior? Beautiful!!!

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by jtbadco

we could only hope....

so basically since there is bad in the world and always will be,...no one should bother to try for any measure of proper behavior? Beautiful!!!

Maybe your crusade is driven by the guilt you feel in having an aquarium full of captive creatures? I can't say, but because I don't bow to your lynch mob metality when starting this post doesn't mean you are any better than me.

[jorjef]

Hey Marko, is there any room over there in the "penalty box of public opinion" I may be coming over...

[jtbadco]

You have voiced your opinion, so get over yourself and go away. Most of the people here have agreed with my post and the reasons for posting it.
I feel no guilt whatsoever, your reasoning is as flawed as your logic.

And your responses show I'm better than you, I could care less whether you agree with my post.

[Judy Waytiuk]

I thought you were done, Jorjef. Apparently not. Pity. Non-constructive insults don't add to any form of discussion.
Well, here's food for thought, since you are railing on about the general lack of ethics among reefers keeping captured wildlife prisoners in glass boxes: a good deal of research into coral reef health has evolved from hobbyists' original interests. And a lot of responsible hobbyists buy aquacultured corals now-- which only became available when hobbyists began asking for them instead of wild-harvested corals. Much knowledge and research has been generated as a result of the interests of hobbyists.
Lynch mob mentality...?? when you have something useful to say, say it. If all you can do is throw insults around, maybe just leave the discussion to the grownups trying to impart actual information.